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10 May 40 Fall Gelb -
Factory Aircraft Mk Serial/Wnr. Code Unit Air Force TO/t Airfield
Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-1 3462 I+6 9./JG 26 Luftwaffe Essen-Mühlheim
Time Cause of the Crash Crash Location Damage Province
1621 Hit by Flak Crashed in the dunes near Ockenburg Zuid-Holland
Function Mil Rank Ini Name Age Mil reg Air Force Fate Cemetery Grave Remarks
Flugzeugführer Lt. W. Ludewig German 60321/2 Luftwaffe - wounded

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Bürschgens, Josef 'Jupp' Hptm 1/31/1917 10 2/JG-26 (9/39), 7/JG-26 (Channel) Bf 109E-3 "Red 5" (9/39), Bf 109E-4 Werk # 5396 (8/40, showing 8 victories), Bf 109E-1 Werk # 4495 (or 1195?) "Wh 7 + I" (lost 8/11/40), Bf 109E-1 Wk# 3892 "White 11 + I" (lost 9/1/40) EP
EK 1 & 2(9/39)
Wound Badge
Fighter Operational Clasp Scored the first victory for JG-26 in "Red 5" on 28 September, 1939, a French Curtiss Hawk-75A fighter near Tünsdorf/Mettlach while on an escort mission for an Hs 126 on a spotting mission. On this same date, he became the first JG-26 casualty, suffering two bullet wounds, requiring 8 months to recuperate. His 1st, a Hawk 75 on 9/28/39 at Tünsdorf/Mettlach. His 2nd, a Morane 406 at Mantes on 9 June, 1940. His 3rd, a Spitfire at Dover on 25 July, 1940. His 4th, a Spitfire at Dover on 14 August, 1940. His 5th & 6th, both Spitfires E of Dover on 15 August, 1940. Nos.7 & 8, both Hurricane NNW of Dover on 18 August, 1940. His 9th, a Hurricane at Littlestone on 25 August, 1940. His 10th, a Spitfire at Croydon on 1 September, 1940. Shot down with wounds 11 August, 1940 in his "White 7" by a Spitfire, making an emergency landing in the Calais/Caffiers area. POW 1 September, 1940, after downing his 10th, shot down by the German Bf 110 fighter he had just rescued from his 10th victiim! He crashed his "White 11" AC at Newbridge, near Rye, Sussex, England, suffering head and back injuries. Spent the remainder of the war in a Canadian POW Camp. Released in 1946. Deceased 1 July, 1999. ++

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Snautzer01 said:
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Bürschgens, Josef 'Jupp' Hptm 1/31/1917 10 2/JG-26 (9/39), 7/JG-26 (Channel) Bf 109E-3 "Red 5" (9/39), Bf 109E-4 Werk # 5396 (8/40, showing 8 victories), Bf 109E-1 Werk # 4495 (or 1195?) "Wh 7 + I" (lost 8/11/40), Bf 109E-1 Wk# 3892 "White 11 + I" (lost 9/1/40) EP
EK 1 & 2(9/39)
Wound Badge
Fighter Operational Clasp Scored the first victory for JG-26 in "Red 5" on 28 September, 1939, a French Curtiss Hawk-75A fighter near Tünsdorf/Mettlach while on an escort mission for an Hs 126 on a spotting mission. On this same date, he became the first JG-26 casualty, suffering two bullet wounds, requiring 8 months to recuperate. His 1st, a Hawk 75 on 9/28/39 at Tünsdorf/Mettlach. His 2nd, a Morane 406 at Mantes on 9 June, 1940. His 3rd, a Spitfire at Dover on 25 July, 1940. His 4th, a Spitfire at Dover on 14 August, 1940. His 5th & 6th, both Spitfires E of Dover on 15 August, 1940. Nos.7 & 8, both Hurricane NNW of Dover on 18 August, 1940. His 9th, a Hurricane at Littlestone on 25 August, 1940. His 10th, a Spitfire at Croydon on 1 September, 1940. Shot down with wounds 11 August, 1940 in his "White 7" by a Spitfire, making an emergency landing in the Calais/Caffiers area. POW 1 September, 1940, after downing his 10th, shot down by the German Bf 110 fighter he had just rescued from his 10th victiim! He crashed his "White 11" AC at Newbridge, near Rye, Sussex, England, suffering head and back injuries. Spent the remainder of the war in a Canadian POW Camp. Released in 1946. Deceased 1 July, 1999. ++

  1. Orig. SW-Dia-JG 26 Schlageter, BF 109, Wnr. 4495 Weisse 7, Lt. Bürschgens wk2 | eBay
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Interesting picture #3184.
The location Caffiers was an operational temporary airfield about 1km NE of the village and rail station of Caffiers. The photo shows an area that looks very much like that location. Also, although the crop has been cut, this could be just on the fringe of the landing ground, which was just on farmland and not developed. It does look as though the aircraft is attended by air force troops (black-men on the left and Officers/Engineer on right) and it may be possible that the pilot is on the left of the picture, standing near the tail, still wearing his light coloured life-jacket. The aircraft has made a wheels-up landing and broken the fuselage at frame 2. In this picture, combat damage is not visible, but the black-man on the left has removed the rear engine cowling which he is standing against.
Wheels-up landing was recommended for engine-out landings, even at an airstrip unless plenty of time, height and good circumstances. In this case, maybe there was cooling system damage and he limped back with engine overheating and choose wheels-up near base? The fuselage breaking on wheels-up was not unusual.

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Engineman said:
Interesting picture #3184.
The location Caffiers was an operational temporary airfield about 1km NE of the village and rail station of Caffiers. The photo shows an area that looks very much like that location. Also, although the crop has been cut, this could be just on the fringe of the landing ground, which was just on farmland and not developed. It does look as though the aircraft is attended by air force troops (black-men on the left and Officers/Engineer on right) and it may be possible that the pilot is on the left of the picture, standing near the tail, still wearing his light coloured life-jacket. The aircraft has made a wheels-up landing and broken the fuselage at frame 2. In this picture, combat damage is not visible, but the black-man on the left has removed the rear engine cowling which he is standing against.
Wheels-up landing was recommended for engine-out landings, even at an airstrip unless plenty of time, height and good circumstances. In this case, maybe there was cooling system damage and he limped back with engine overheating and choose wheels-up near base? The fuselage breaking on wheels-up was not unusual.

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Caffiers (FR) (50 50 34 N – 01 48 52 E)
General: airfield in NE France 11 km SSW of Calais and 1 km NE of the
village of Caffiers. History: one of the numerous forward fighter stations
set up in the Pas-de-Calais area in summer 1940 for the air offensive against
England. It was just S of Saint-Inglevert, Pihen-lès-Guînes, Guînes and
several other fighter fields. It was essentially abandoned after the heavy
fall rains set it during Nov 40. Surface and Dimensions: information not
found, but probably farm land or pasture land. Infrastructure: mainly used
local farms, barns and outbuildings.
Remarks:
Sep 40: assigned airfield code number 379. Came under Koflug 8/III
(Saint-Omer).
Operational Units: III./JG 26 (Jul-Nov 40).
Station Commands: none identified.
Station Units (on various dates – not complete): none identified.
[Sources: chronologies; BA-MA; NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk]

Henry L. deZeng IV http://www.ww2.dk/Airfields - France.pdf
 
Snautzer01 said:
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Bürschgens, Josef 'Jupp' Hptm 1/31/1917 10 2/JG-26 (9/39), 7/JG-26 (Channel) Bf 109E-3 "Red 5" (9/39), Bf 109E-4 Werk # 5396 (8/40, showing 8 victories), Bf 109E-1 Werk # 4495 (or 1195?) "Wh 7 + I" (lost 8/11/40), Bf 109E-1 Wk# 3892 "White 11 + I" (lost 9/1/40) EP
EK 1 & 2(9/39)
Wound Badge
Fighter Operational Clasp Scored the first victory for JG-26 in "Red 5" on 28 September, 1939, a French Curtiss Hawk-75A fighter near Tünsdorf/Mettlach while on an escort mission for an Hs 126 on a spotting mission. On this same date, he became the first JG-26 casualty, suffering two bullet wounds, requiring 8 months to recuperate. His 1st, a Hawk 75 on 9/28/39 at Tünsdorf/Mettlach. His 2nd, a Morane 406 at Mantes on 9 June, 1940. His 3rd, a Spitfire at Dover on 25 July, 1940. His 4th, a Spitfire at Dover on 14 August, 1940. His 5th & 6th, both Spitfires E of Dover on 15 August, 1940. Nos.7 & 8, both Hurricane NNW of Dover on 18 August, 1940. His 9th, a Hurricane at Littlestone on 25 August, 1940. His 10th, a Spitfire at Croydon on 1 September, 1940. Shot down with wounds 11 August, 1940 in his "White 7" by a Spitfire, making an emergency landing in the Calais/Caffiers area. POW 1 September, 1940, after downing his 10th, shot down by the German Bf 110 fighter he had just rescued from his 10th victiim! He crashed his "White 11" AC at Newbridge, near Rye, Sussex, England, suffering head and back injuries. Spent the remainder of the war in a Canadian POW Camp. Released in 1946. Deceased 1 July, 1999. ++

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Re post #3184
There are other points to discuss with this damaged aircraft. What do you do with it? For certain it is still a valuable and attractive item. Damage here is possibly 50% and I would expect it would be repaired at depot/factory.
The workload for the parent unit would be a complication for them, as it seems to be at, or very close to its unit in the field. First actions would be to make the aircraft safe. You can see the top rear cowling is removed and that gives access to the ammunition boxes and the fuselage guns. The wing cannon have top access panels as well as lower panels. With guns safe/disconnected the ammunition would be recovered and guns removed ASAP.
It is likely that the aircraft had little fuel after being in action, but it is not easy to drain from a Bf 109 on its belly. The fuel cannot be back-pumped by a fuel truck but it can be pumped into barrels by the electric aircraft pump if it will function. It could also be drained onto the ground.
Apart from working on the guns and possibly fuel, the Technical Officer will be assessing how to deal with the recovery. 109's on their belly can usually just be lifted at the wing spar and engine lifting points and then put the gear down. Here, with the fuselage badly broken, it is much more complicated. I would suggest that they would still lift it, trestle it under the fuselage hard points, lower the wheels and remove the wings. The rear fuselage may become detached in this example so the U/C legs might be removed and the remaining forward fuselage with engine would be loaded onto a lorry or flatbed, resting on its hardpoints and supported at the front at the propshaft.
Normally, complete 109 fuselages were transported with the wings removed and the gear down, but without the rear fuselage in place, this would not be possible.
Overall, quite a lot of work.

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Snautzer01 said:
Notice marking. Transition flight? 1941

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Marschweg Enz 1941 Gebirgsjäger Flugzeug Wrack Pferd Karren A037-111 | eBay

Militaria,Fotos,Antiquitäten,Porzellan,Spielzeug. Die Karte hat die Größe von ca 9,5 cm X 6,5 cm. Das Foto ist 100 % Original aus der Zeit vor 1945.
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Rather no. The kite has already the yellow 3 number applied and also the yellow band at the back of the fuselage what indicates the die Ostfront. IMHO, a quite brand-new Friedrich or early Gustav delivered to a squadron but lost very quickly.
 
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