SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
He's married?
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He's married?You said my point of view makes no sense because I contradict myself. If it makes no sense how do you understand it?
Hold on. Let me see if I can summon him.We need the rainbow reaction guy in here… lol
Sakai Saburo was heavily wounded on 7 August 1942 with his eye being hit and he had to fly back to Rabaul with serious injuries and a damaged aircraft. The SBD Dauntless that hit Sakai was credited with a victory even though Sakai landed back at base with a damaged aircraft and wounds. The aircraft was repaired and Sakai only returned to combat in 1944. Would this be a victory for the SBD? They were credited with it. In my opinion no it's not but other people would say it is.
This is one hundred percent Groundhog thread part Deux.
Allow me this analogy:
In Aug 44 the Germans launched an offensive aimed at Mortain with the objective of cutting American armies off to allow their defeat in detail. The offensive was repulsed, which resulted in the Germans hastily retreating East through the Falaise Gap before being hustled completely out of France and regrouping in Belgium, Holland, and Germany.
Was this an Allied victory?
I think the idea that only complete annihilation is a victory is short-sighted in the extreme. Mission-kill is a valid concept.
No he saw the aircraft in small fragments on the ground usually after explodingWhat, did he fly by the other sides base for coffee and cake and ask if it was repaired? Did he make a friendly phone call?
I understand we don't agree. I have already said we all have different opinions and that we don't agree. I don't know why you haven't seen that.I think this is rather easily settled by saying we are all glad you, CHen10, are not sitting on our review board when we submit for a victory credit. It's not Earth-shaking.
I think we ALL get your opinion; it's clear. It's just that no country's military aviation branches anywhere share your opinion of what constitutes a victory credit. Nor does the general opinion in this forum.
The Rolling Stones have a song out that says it clearly, "You Can't Always Get What You Want." But, if you try sometime, you might find, you get what you need.
So, you need to understand that we simply do NOT agree. Why can't YOU understand that? It is easy. You need to find a way to accept that. There will be less confusion and arguments in your life.
It doesn't mean you can't come up with your own victory credit list. It's just that your new list will not match anyone else's list. Perhaps that's OK with you.
Oh. My. Goodness.Your opinion aka definition means nothing. A kill is scored when an aircraft is shot down. Period. How hard is that for you to understand?
No he saw the aircraft in small fragments on the ground usually after exploding
I understand we don't agree. I have already said we all have different opinions and that we don't agree. I don't know why you haven't seen that.
Everyone has their own valid opinion which I already said.
It's clear that you and other people here are so rattled. It's hilarious to see people having meltdowns because I say something they don't agree with. Please chill. However if you want to continue then go ahead. It's so funny.
Then you can make a guess as a pilot as to whether or not it's going to be repaired.Ok, but what about aircraft that didn't explode? Not every one does…
Your opinion aka definition is full of holes.
Oh. My. Goodness.
I have explained my opinion and it's reasons many times
I believe the aircraft has to be destroyed. Period.
You're going around in circles asking the same stuff over and over. It's madness
Well since you're being confrontational it's clear you're angry and having a meltdownLMAO
No, whats annoying is someone believing their opinion is fact.
Nobody is having a meltdown either, most of us are rather amused.
Because, your opinion makes no sense. Do you really think your opinion outweighs those of the brave men who actually flew and fought? Thats the real madness here.
Never said my opinion is a fact by the wayLMAO
No, whats annoying is someone believing their opinion is fact.
Nobody is having a meltdown either, most of us are rather amused.
Well since you're being confrontational it's clear you're angry and having a meltdown