Favorite Sub-machine gun

[102first_hussars]

Oh god silly humans everybody knows that the Light Saber was the best,

I mean cumon it was a sword made of Lazer

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The M-16, M-4, 50 Cal. M-9 Baretta, M-60, Mark 19, SAW, 249, all use springs. In fact lots of guns use springs.

K I do that all of the time so geeze dont be so hard on him you arent on me.

I dont have to be hard on you. Les and PD do it for me. Keep saying stupid things why dont you.

And second the SAW and The 249 are the same weapons, and the M2 50.Cal does not use springs it uses the bolt lock system on the cocking handle.

Excuse me I made a mistake I meant the 240G which is what we are starting to use in our Blackhawks not the 249. And I have news for you the M2 50 Cals which we have in our unit have a spring in them.

It is when you overcompensate for a heavy recoil, and a heavy gun, it feels really weird.

Why do you think that 5.56 have heavy recoil. I am sorry but I have never fired a 5.56 that had heavy recoil. Have you fired a 5.56 that has heavy recoil?

Gas makes the piston go backwards yes, but then what makes the bolt go forwards again?

I am not an expert on exactly how guns work but when the bolt goes back the sear pin catches it and locks it. The spring behind th bolt is under tension and when you pull the trigger the sear assy releases and the spring under tension slams the bolt foward.

 

[schwarzpanzer]

DerAdler:

Why do you think that 5.56 have heavy recoil. I am sorry but I have never fired a 5.56 that had heavy recoil. Have you fired a 5.56 that has heavy recoil?

No, but that's the point. It's too weird on single-shot IMHO.

The spring behind th bolt is under tension and when you pull the trigger the sear assy releases and the spring under tension slams the bolt foward.

Yes, that' what I was meaning.

BTW: DerAdler's usually a top bloke hussars, no need to be defensive.

 

[102first_hussars]

"BTW: DerAdler's usually a top bloke hussars, no need to be defensive."

I wasnt, It seems that every1 is going nuts when ever P-38 has something to say so Im defending him.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

then you'll proberly end up getting it the same as P-38, pD and les don't discriminate

 

[trackend]

Personally I believe that there is a fundamental difference between gas and inertia operated weapons ,all fire arms make use of springs to some degree or another but control of the action varies greatly
Rather than me rambling on for ages have a look at this site it gives a pretty reasonable explanation of the various principles.

http://www.rkba.org/guns/principles/operating-systems/

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Cool link, thanks.

 

[lesofprimus]

Hussars, the LAST person here u want to ally urself with is P-38... Take some advice from me, dont get involved in -38's buisness, just worry about urself...

 

[schwarzpanzer]

It seems that every1 is going nuts when ever P-38 has something to say so Im defending him.

I don't but in all honesty I can hardly defend that last remark, how rude.

pD and les don't discriminate

PD hates everybody, loves me though.

all fire arms make use of springs to some degree or another but control of the action varies greatly

That's what I was saying trackend.

 

[lesofprimus]

I don't but in all honesty I can hardly defend that last remark, how rude.

It was meant to be rude....

 

[102first_hussars]

What my remark? I wasnt trying to be rude I was stating a fact.

If P-38 says something about a fact that is incorrect is it really fair for any1 to call him a retard or Idiot simply because he was incorrect, now if he is known to make personal attacks thats different, Think of me as "The Canadian Peacekeeper" Wearing Jungle Camo in the Desert and everything.

 

[schwarzpanzer]

Not you, him.

P38 called a group of people retards for saying something that was correct, I usually try to stick up for people, but he lined himself up IMO.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

If P-38 says something about a fact that is incorrect is it really fair for any1 to call him a retard or Idiot simply because he was incorrect, now if he is known to make personal attacks thats different,

What for calling people retards because he thinks that the only guns that use springs are BB guns? Why dont you go and read the rest of the posts in this forum and you will see why we do what we do.

Think of me as "The Canadian Peacekeeper" Wearing Jungle Camo in the Desert and everything.

 

[102first_hussars]

Actually theres a bit of a joke behind that,

We wore Green Camo In Afghanistan So the Taliban wouldnt mistake us for Americans

 

[Nonskimmer]

Oh? I thought it was so that you could stand together and become a forest or something. Individually, you could have stood still, stuck your arms out, and become a cactus.

 

[lesofprimus]

"The Canadian Peacekeeper"

Well the next time we need u, I'll make sure to stick my head up a Mooses' ass and holler for you...

 

[Nonskimmer]

Mmmmm...Moose meat...
God, I haven't had a good moose steak in ages.

 

[lesofprimus]

Heres the perfect place for u to go NS...

 

[Nonskimmer]

Pfffff! You can't find a good moose steak in Saskatoon.
But I've always liked that sign.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Actually theres a bit of a joke behind that,

We wore Green Camo In Afghanistan So the Taliban wouldnt mistake us for Americans

We had to at first also because they did not have eneogh desert issue for us.