**** FINISHED: 1/48 Bf 109E-4 Von Werra - Defense of Britain/Atlantic.

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  1. JKim

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    #1 JKim, Oct 24, 2015
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    Username: JKim
    First name: John
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    Scale: 1/48
    Manufacturer: Eduard
    Model Type: Bf 109E-4 - Profipack Edition
    Aftermarket addons: Mostly OOB but the Profipack Edition comes with photoetched parts and canopy masks

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    Excellent John.
     
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    Very nice indeed !
     
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    Very, well done John, looks brilliant
     
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    Superb work John, and very well presented.
     
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    She's a beauty John, and again, I love you weathering.
     
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    Agree with all plus some great research work.



    Geo
     
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    Thanks for the comments guys! The research thing is easy when you have such knowledgeable people on this site so much thanks to all who provided comments and info!

    Still playing around with my final flat coat "settings". This one was shot with a bit more matt than the Spitfire. And I'm still exploring options for a different flat coat since the Alclad stuff is still not curing completely in many cases.
     
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    Really well done John. :cool:
     
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    I've just noticed that something is missing - where's Simba, the lion cub ?!

    Regarding the matt coat, I've been in the same situation, since the demise of 'proper' Future/Klear, which I used to mix with Tamiya Flat Base to obtain either matt, very matt, semi-matt etc. The current Johnson's Pledge with Klear (UK equivalent to Future) is absolute [email protected], compared to the original, regardless of what might have been published elsewhere in the modelling 'world' - it is definitely different; great as a floor polish, but not suited to modelling use.
    I now do it using the FB with with Humbrol Clear, but I'm still getting used to the required ratios. However, Humbrol now have both a satin and matt version of their (gloss) clear, so I think I'll be trying them out. If they're as good as their gloss coat, I'll be very happy !
    Might be worth trying some John, especially for early to mid-war Luftwaffe aircraft, which weren't a full matt finish - they had a slight sheen, somewhere between satin and matt, so a mix of both should replicate the finish nicely.
     
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    Another beauty John, excellent work as usual :thumbleft:
     
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    As I said it he "Done" thread, one of the nicest 109's I've ever seen. Great, great job.
     
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    Thanks so much for the positive comments everyone! I'm super impressed with Eduard and the last two kits I've built (109E-4 and the Spitfire IXc)... the fit and especially the surface detailing are EXCELLENT!

    Thanks Terry! The problem that I encounter with satin or semi-matt finishes is that it can mess with the scale effect, IMO. That little bit of surface translucency... I don't know how else to explain it... steers me towards a more matt finish. I get most of my paints at my LHS in the US and unfortunately, Humbrol is not stocked there. I am avoiding Tamiya Clears as they come in such small bottles and I'm looking for a more "economical" solution.
     
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    I agree about the Tamiya clears John - expensive in the long run, and tend to stay 'sticky' for quite some time.
    Why not have a try of the method I described, using 'Future' and Tamiya Flat Base (NOT their clear matt)?
    It takes a little experimentation to achieve the desired finish, but then a suitable quantity can be mixed and stored in a clean jar. For Luftwaffe subjects, I mix it so that it's only just semi-matt - not a total 'dusty' flat look, but not much of a sheen either, and it works very well, without spoiling the 'scale effect'.
    This is what it looks like on the '110 I did some years back, with just the right amount of slight surface sheen.
     

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    Actually Terry... I misspoke about Humbrol at my LHS. They DO have a rack of Humbrol paints and I picked up a bottle of their Matte Cote as well as Gloss Cote to test out. Lovely 110 by the way!
     
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    #17 Airframes, Oct 26, 2015
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    Thanks John, but just check those Humbrol products. They sound like their original clear coats, not the relatively new (acrylic) ones, in the larger 125 ml bottle as shown in my previous post. If they're in the smaller, 'tubby' bottle, then I'd tend not to use them - they're the enamel-type, and not very good, in my opinion.
    The bottle should look like this - no 'Clear Coat' in the title.
     

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    Lovely finish John.
     
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    Thank you Vic!

    I think I picked up the older enamel-type clears. I have the receipt so I will return them and look for the newer acrylic ones.
     
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    Glad you're able to change them in time.
    I was a bit harsh about the 'Clear Coat' type - they're not too bad, but, being enamel, they're rather 'heavy', and, of course, prone to 'yellowing' with age, and not as good, overall, as the more 'modern' finishes we've become used to.
    I haven't used the 'new' matt Clear yet, but the gloss is very good, and performs the same as Future, but without the risk of 'waxing' or clouding, as it's a true acrylic varnish, and not a floor polish.
     
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