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• Nov 16, 2021

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Donivanp said:

This Group Build will be for any aircraft in WW2 service that was designed and used primarily as a level bomber. Fighters equipped with bombs or rockets, torpedo aircraft, and dive bombers are excluded from this theme. While it is recognized that many bomber aircraft went on to serve in other roles (e.g. Ju-88 as Night Fighter, Mosquito as Fighter-Bomber, etc) this build is intended to display such aircraft in their bombing role only.

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Marine/Navy bombers are somehow ignored by the modelling society when it comes to "heavy hitters" (it's my personal understanding or IMHO as we use to say). For some of the navalized birds it's easy to say "yes". PBJ and PB4Y are bombers even in the blue-grey or the blue-white "disguise". But what about PV-1? Is it just a patrol a/c or a bomber? What about flying boats like PBY, PB2Y, PBM, Sunderland etc.? Are they bombers? Or patrol-bombers are not exactly level bombers as defined in the GB-rules.
In a different thread I posted some information about the MAD-Cats - radar equipped "Catalinas" attacking submarines with "retro-bombs". Were they bombers or not quite?
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• Nov 16, 2021

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Or is a PBY a torpedo bomber?
I'm a simple man with a simple mind. If it dropped bombs it's a bomber. Wait, I know the F4F dropped bombs. Now my head hurts.

 

• Nov 16, 2021

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SaparotRob said:

Or is a PBY a torpedo bomber?
I'm a simple man with a simple mind. If it dropped bombs it's a bomber. Wait, I know the F4F dropped bombs. Now my head hurts.

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Since the torpedo bombers, fighter bombers and dive bombers are excluded from the GB as per definition (see above), not every a/c dropping bombs is a bomber. I specifically asked about the patrol-bombers. PBYs carrying torpedoes are the same as PBJs with torpedoes or "Tiny Tim"-rockets; they do exist but do not change the classification of the particular type.
Cheers!

 

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• Nov 18, 2021

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I hope to be along soon with this.....

 

• Nov 18, 2021

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• Nov 18, 2021

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Wayne Little said:

I hope to be along soon with this.....

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Did that a few years back. Great kit. Uses the Dragon kit with Revell designed front end. Great addition with you at the controls.

 

• Dec 3, 2021

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I've had a change of mind and won't be building the LeO 451 unless it is as a second entry.
I've recently discovered a lot of information and pictures of the B-24 my father flew in on his 1st and 3rd combat mission with the 484th bomb group. It has some mildly racy art work on the nose that I think I can make up so this one is pretty hard to resist with the theme of the current group build.

 

• Dec 3, 2021

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sounds good Glenn

 

• Dec 3, 2021

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I like it, I like it. I love this hobby, porn and airplanes. Brings tears to my eyes

 

• Dec 14, 2021

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The title is Heavy Hitters but the only kit I have that can be called a level bomber is a PZL 23A Karas light bomber. Just wanted to check I will be okay to enter it into competition.
Money is a bit tight at the moment and I can't justify buying a new kit when I have 8 waiting.

 

• Dec 14, 2021

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If it's primarily a level bomber, then it's fine by me.
Let's see what the other judges think .................

 

• Dec 14, 2021

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If it's primarily a level bomber, then it's fine by me.
Let's see what the other judges think .................

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As far as I have read it wasn't stressed as a dive bomber and it's way too slow to be a fighter. One aircraft bombed a factory in Ohlau (Olawa nowadays) on 2nd September 1939.

 

• Dec 14, 2021

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Karaś was designated as a light bomber ( line bomber ) . So it is fine for the GB. During the September Campaigne 1939 the plane also had to be a reconnaissance aircraft.

An abandoned PZL.23 Karaś bomber at an airfield near Radom, 1939.


the source: http://muzeum.radomsko.pl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/pdf/GazetkaNS1.09.2014r.pdf

 

• Dec 14, 2021

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So......................
if it's slow................................. it'sago!
Oh my the rules of play!

 

• Dec 14, 2021

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I like it but I don't matter

 

• Dec 15, 2021

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It will be a welcome addition. Go for it.