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Thanks Wojtek, we figured the RLM65, so this one I already got. I'm not goint to mix in my first attempt of modelling after 20 years, so it'll have to do.Thank you Marcel. That's a pity these guys at the LHS weren't so quick. It would save you from going there again and again. Oh.. of course you need a paint for undersides. It was RLM65 Hellblau. The Humbrol equivalent is Humbrol no.65. A few guys suggest mixing with 30% of Humbrol 23 Duck Egg Blue. But I have used the H65 without that for the Airfix Bf 109E of 1/24 scle and it looked good.