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monty took over cossack,kicked out most of the rubbish,eg general k.e.n anderson,proposed c.o of brit 2nd army,planned overlord.would that not make him a strategic general.starling.8) .
i once saw doc areyce nusbacher say..the only way to sttop a german blitz attack,was defence in depth like kursk...well he never read about medenine did he.our monty stopped a whole german panzer corps;10pz div,15pz div and 21pz div,dead.commanded by rommel,again.he gave rommel a real kick in the face,which apparently made rommel ill.poor boy had to go home,i believe.yours,starling.
Rommel will always stand very tall for me. Quite apart from his considerable military talents, what stands out for me, was his ability to stand up for what he believed to be right. When ordered to shoot all commandoes summarily, without trial, he very publicly tore up and burned the written orders in the presesence of his IA,
After his expereineces in the Desert, Rommel advocatted a strong shift to Infantry/AT defence, because he doubted the ability of tanks to be as effective in defences. He foresaw the great material advantage of the allies that was coming, and believed the only way to stop it was by a sustained conventional defence, to extract the maximum casulaties out of the allies (which he rightly saw as the allied achilles heel). He also believed it absolutley necessary to seek peace terms for germany after 1943, and was bitterly disappointed when he realized that Hitler intended no such outcome. I believe he foresaw hitlers intentions for Germany, victory or destruction, and was horrified to realize just how out of touch hitler had become.
I agree, he was a very noble man.
I have met his son on many occasions. He used to be the mayor of the city I lived in. I have actually had dinner with him, when he was the guest of honor for my BN banquent. He did a lot for German/American relations in the Stuttgart area.
I used to travel to Rommels grave site every year as part of the military memorial on the day of his death, and I took a tour of his house near Ulm and got to see his Knights Cross and Pour le Merit as well as several of his uniforms and photo albums.
I actually own an original picture (well sort of original, it is taken from the original negative) of Rommel in Africa that was given to me by his son and a member of the Afrika Corps association.
I often have wondered what would have happened if Rommel had survived the war. What would have been the effect of his commentary to the post war histories???
I often have wondered what would have happened if Rommel had survived the war. What would have been the effect of his commentary to the post war histories???
oh come along gentlemen,monty kicked rommel at alamein,and then kicked him for 1200miles across north africa.and then kicked his arse at medenine.i suppose you will twist this around,poor old rommel.yours,starling.
i also know a very close relative of sir brian horrocks,c.o of different formations in the desert and ending up most famousley as xxx corps commander.yours,starling8) .
are you missing mareth out for other reasons kruska.
there were many soldiers from the commmonwealth as well as british soldiers.they fought and died to rid the world of a megalomaniac.or madman.
monty visited his soldiers,talked to them.he sacked commanders in private.rommel ignored manyunits and chastised officers in the open.8th army soldiers trusted monty.yours,starling.
Most of this material is from very general references, including "history Of the Second World War" and Eddie Bauers "History Of WWII"
Very impressive.
Im not saying that Rommel was not without fault. What I really object to is mindless criticism not based on any subjective analysis at all. The man deserves better respect than thet, just the same as Monty does for his exploites as well.
I often have wondered what would have happened if Rommel had survived the war. What would have been the effect of his commentary to the post war histories???
He probably would have made some trouble for the post-war balance in East Germany. He seems to be the kind to speak his mind regardless of the consequences.
I wonder if he would have been involved in an "unfortunate accident" if he was in East Germany? Like Patton.....