GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
And maybe if there wasn't so many seat harness buckles...
Groundhog Thread Part Deux - P-39 Fantasy and Fetish - The Never Ending Story (Mods take no responsibility for head against wall injuries sustained) (4 Viewers)
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wuzak
Captain
Allison Piston Engine Specifications
www.enginehistory.org
Has 1660lb for the V-1710-117 (-E21) and 1450lb for the V-1710-85 (-E19).
The V-7101-81 (-F20R) of the P-51A weighed 1352lb, the V-1710-119 (-F32R) of the P-51J 1750lb.
Somehow the V-1710-121 (-F28R) in the P-40Q weighed only 1555lb!
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
And with a host of pilots, some holding flight instructor's ratings and some ATPs have repeatedly shown you don't know how to use them. I recommend this, and I'm serious...
Chapter 11 specifically!
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Really? show us some pics or measurements to counter what GregP found when he actually measured the aircraft! Plans and diagrams? Did you know what you were looking at????
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
About a month ago our friend didn't know what that meant
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Maybe he'll learn something despite himself. Maybe X XBe02Drvr had a good point when he was explaining his patience upthread. As I've said, I come to this thread to learn too, and that's only because the pilots here provide a direct perspective. Thanks to all of ya for that.
His stubbornness has brought something useful to this thread, in a way he probably didn't imagine.
What about changing aluminum map cases for plastic ones, like they did in the P-40? That'll give you at least an extra 30mph at 35,000ft, I reckon...
True, received a copy in my first year of engineering course and referred to it frequently through my apprenticeship and whilst sitting licence papers. Got a stack of the airframe and propulsion manuals on my shelf and refer to them every now and then.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
As has been mentioned before (way, way back upthread), he should get a ride just to see what all's involved in the process.
I'd offer to do it (if he lived nearby), but my certs are way out of date and I'm a VFR bottom-feeder compared to the other drivers in this discussion.
But I am serious - this guy needs a ride to get an idea of the "hows and whys".
I'd offer to do it (if he lived nearby), but my certs are way out of date and I'm a VFR bottom-feeder compared to the other drivers in this discussion.
But I am serious - this guy needs a ride to get an idea of the "hows and whys".
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Wait a minute. Could that have been his plan all along?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
By God, I think you're onto something, there!
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Just wait -- two years from now we're going to read online about a guy who trolled an aviation forum into funding his flight lessons.
Could be worse, it could be about a guy who trolled an internet forum into believing him!
Happens!
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
re "Just wait -- two years from now we're going to read online about a guy who trolled an aviation forum into funding his flight lessons."
Hmmm . . .
ya know, I have always wanted to learn to fly.
Hmmm . . .
ya know, I have always wanted to learn to fly.
drgondog
Major
AHT - page 193, P-39Q. "Engine 1397", - page 410, P-63C, "Engine 1710" for tabulations for Empty weight. I assume Water Injection System weight (on 410) of 50 pounds is for the tank/lines and hopefully at CG as the Water/Alcohol usable weight is 185 pounds - which I assume is at CG (best case for 'tipping' consideration as follows). Total moment arm BEYOND datum line and original Fully loaded CG is added 313 pounds (minimum) and possibly another 215 pounds (water tank+water/alcohol);
The CG for the P-39 is forward of the main gear. Correct? Why you ask? Lean back in a chair. What happens when the 'new CG' moves past the support legs? The Door Hinge Line(aft) and pilot seat back are at the approximate seat back for full internal load. ALL additional 'Engine mass' is aft of the Pilot seat and CG with V-1710-85.
It DOESN'T help to put engine auxilliary 'bits' such as Water/Alcohol or Supercharger BEHIND the Seat, BEHIND the CG for the airplane at rest, to ADD to allowable full internal load.
Imagine your new P-39 with P-63 engine/supercharger sitting on its ass in a classic three point config with nose gear dangling in he air.
If you can.
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If ballast was with 6 inch cannon balls this would be a major help to modellers. Lead shot and small ball bearings could be used in most scales. I am seeing lots of win-wins here.
Peter Gunn
Master Sergeant
At this point, I'd be curious if our P-39 buddy knows what CFI or ATP stands for, without a quick google search that is...Could be worse, it could be about a guy who trolled an internet forum into believing him!
Happens!
I wouldn't press too hard with stuff like VFR, IFR, IMC, VOR, VNE, ETC... well, maybe he knows the last one.
Peter Gunn
Master Sergeant
I'd give you double bacon for this if possible, although I'm jealous as I'm far too snarky to create such a well thought and direct to the point post. Well done.
special ed
2nd Lieutenant
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- May 13, 2018
There was a company in Florida where you could buy a combat ride with an identical acft and find out how you would do for real. No Guns, but video.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That blows the doors off Epcot.
