the il-2 had a 1500 lb armored tub around the cockpit and engine area. doesn't 750 lbs just under the P-39's seat sound a little doubtful ?
this thread does seem haunted by misprints.
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the il-2 had a 1500 lb armored tub around the cockpit and engine area. doesn't 750 lbs just under the P-39's seat sound a little doubtful ?Speaking of stripping off armour, I found this here. The P-39 Airacobra - Warfare History Network
"Nothing could touch a P-39 used below 15,000-feet" contended American Air Ace Lt. Col. William A. Shomo who flew P-39s, P-40s, F-6Ds, and a P-51D in WWII. He wouldn't have hesitated to have even taken on the vaunted P-38 at lower altitudes because of the extreme maneuverability of the "Flying Cannon." And it could tangle successfully with a Japanese Zero, he argued, if the American pilot kept his airspeed at 300 miles per hour or better so the enemy "couldn't turn inside you."
The Americans in the field experimented with the aircraft throughout the war to continually gain an edge and some additional speed, eventually stripping off a chunk of belly armor under the seat that weighed some 750 pounds. With those modifications, the P-39 could "fly like a bumble bee," asserted Shomo. He and his men especially liked the stinging power of the plane's 37mm cannon that could, if necessary, fire off some 30 rounds in 12 seconds. The hefty warhead had a definite arching trajectory, but one could eventually learn to "drop the shell right into someone's shirt pocket as he walked along the beach," said the ace."
A survivor. Don't be afraid of COVID 19 after that experience.So what does overnighting on the floor of Laguardia qualify me as?
A survivor. Don't be afraid of COVID 19 after that experience.
The old terminal was like a third world single wide trailer inside with garbage cans to catch rainwater.
Hey Der Adler. It is about 80 miles or 1.5 hours or so, not during rush hours.
I'd love to get a visit, and you could stay at my house, if need be, overnight. I'm about 2 - 3 miles from Chino airport.
We could see MANY warbirds, have some B-B-Q, and quaff a few beers, in no particular order.
A doormat.So what does overnighting on the floor of Laguardia qualify me as?
So what's the "new" terminal like? My memories are all of the 3rd world single wide.The old terminal was like a third world single wide trailer inside with garbage cans to catch rainwater.
It's a very nice terminal now. High ceilings, lots of food choice, bars (most still closed) but a vast improvement. It does follow the newer configuration of the security flow dumping you into the shopping area.So what's the "new" terminal like? My memories are all of the 3rd world single wide.
Last time I was there was in 2017 when Kathleen checked out on retirement day. Construction in progress and we walked through a rabbit warren maze of passageways to various AA offices and ops spaces, many looking like they were temporary. Glad they made something nice of it. Now if they could just fix the airside.It's a very nice terminal now. High ceilings, lots of food choice, bars (most still closed) but a vast improvement. It does follow the newer configuration of the security flow dumping you into the shopping area.
Hell yes! All you'd have to do is fill in Flushing Bay, fill and channelize the East River all the way to the Throgs Neck, extend parallel causeways to Riker's Island, move the prisons out to Hart Island, and relocate all the housing from College Point, and you could have JFK North. No sweat, piece of cake. Robert Moses and Fiorello LaGuardia would be so proud!Any consideration of extending the flight deck of U.S.S. LaGuardia?
I have read about this 750lb piece of armor before but never seen it listed in any weight table. That's a lot of weight, equivalent to a 110gal drop tank full of fuel. The effect on performance must have been huge. I really doubt these actually existed.Speaking of stripping off armour, I found this here. The P-39 Airacobra - Warfare History Network
"Nothing could touch a P-39 used below 15,000-feet" contended American Air Ace Lt. Col. William A. Shomo who flew P-39s, P-40s, F-6Ds, and a P-51D in WWII. He wouldn't have hesitated to have even taken on the vaunted P-38 at lower altitudes because of the extreme maneuverability of the "Flying Cannon." And it could tangle successfully with a Japanese Zero, he argued, if the American pilot kept his airspeed at 300 miles per hour or better so the enemy "couldn't turn inside you."
The Americans in the field experimented with the aircraft throughout the war to continually gain an edge and some additional speed, eventually stripping off a chunk of belly armor under the seat that weighed some 750 pounds. With those modifications, the P-39 could "fly like a bumble bee," asserted Shomo. He and his men especially liked the stinging power of the plane's 37mm cannon that could, if necessary, fire off some 30 rounds in 12 seconds. The hefty warhead had a definite arching trajectory, but one could eventually learn to "drop the shell right into someone's shirt pocket as he walked along the beach," said the ace."
So the person interviewed, Lt. Col. William A. Shomo, a 26 year Air Force veteran, Medal of Honor Winner (with 6 kills in one mission) with several thousand flight hours in various combat aircraft (to include the P-39) is just making this up?!?!? But you "read" about this?????I have read about this 750lb piece of armor before but never seen it listed in any weight table. That's a lot of weight, equivalent to a 110gal drop tank full of fuel. The effect on performance must have been huge. I really doubt these actually existed.
So show me the 750lb piece of armor. All the rest of the armor on the plane weighed about 250lbs. Didn't say Shomo was incorrect. The writer may have been mistaken.So the person interviewed, Lt. Col. William A. Shomo, a 26 year Air Force veteran, Medal of Honor Winner (with 6 kills in one mission) with several thousand flight hours in various combat aircraft (to include the P-39) is just making this up?!?!? But you "read" about this?????
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And yet Shomo flew P-39Qs for a year with zero VC. All his scores came flying the F-6D (7 total. 6 in one mission). I'm wondering where he developed his successful engagement skills versus the Zero.Speaking of stripping off armour, I found this here. The P-39 Airacobra - Warfare History Network
"Nothing could touch a P-39 used below 15,000-feet" contended American Air Ace Lt. Col. William A. Shomo who flew P-39s, P-40s, F-6Ds, and a P-51D in WWII. He wouldn't have hesitated to have even taken on the vaunted P-38 at lower altitudes because of the extreme maneuverability of the "Flying Cannon." And it could tangle successfully with a Japanese Zero, he argued, if the American pilot kept his airspeed at 300 miles per hour or better so the enemy "couldn't turn inside you."
The Americans in the field experimented with the aircraft throughout the war to continually gain an edge and some additional speed, eventually stripping off a chunk of belly armor under the seat that weighed some 750 pounds. With those modifications, the P-39 could "fly like a bumble bee," asserted Shomo. He and his men especially liked the stinging power of the plane's 37mm cannon that could, if necessary, fire off some 30 rounds in 12 seconds. The hefty warhead had a definite arching trajectory, but one could eventually learn to "drop the shell right into someone's shirt pocket as he walked along the beach," said the ace."
So show me the 750lb piece of armor. All the rest of the armor on the plane weighed about 250lbs.