Hartmann's Bf 109s

[Ratsel]

He was appointed Kommodore in Oct/44 so the markings on his machine would reflect it, no? Also, why the 'Schwarz 4' if it was Graf's machine?

 

[Wotan]

In 1945, In JG301 wasn't К-4

 

[Ratsel]

In 1945, In JG301 wasn't К-4

Ok then, thanks.

 

[Wotan]

Also, why the 'Schwarz 4' if it was Graf's machine?

Maybe because he started to fight in war on the "4"

 

[Ratsel]

wasn't he commander at this time? also found this:

"The Tulip K-4 was assigned to 10./JG 52, as "black 4" and later re-assigned to Stab Staffel, where Hptm. Adolf Borchers picked it as his personal machine".

So I thank you guys for kick starting my Brain and trying to get some info on it. If in fact it is the correct information, so far looks like it is.

 

[Wotan]

three pages from "Das II. Gruppe des Jagdgeschwaders 52"

 

[Wayne Little]

Excellent! a shot or two their i havent seen before....

 

[Wotan]

more photo ex-Hartmann's Bf109

 

[Crimea_River]

That's the one I was thinking of a while ago with the tulip in flight. Knew I saw it somewhere.

 

[Njaco]

Absolutely fantastic pics!!!!

 

[Wayne Little]

Thanks for those extra pages Vlad, again some shots i have not seen before including some detail not previously noted!

 

[Ratsel]

Yes, some awesome pics I never seen before.

I took the liberty to enlarge clean up a bit one of them.. Hope nobody minds. This would be his tall tail G-14? Correct?

 

[Wayne Little]

Yes, some awesome pics I never seen before.

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I took the liberty to enlarge clean up a bit one of them.. Hope nobody minds. This would be his tall tail G-14? Correct?

No, his G-6 White 1 as indicated in the captions.

 

[Ratsel]

Oh I see. Was just asking becouse I didn't see a unit badge on the cowl. I thought his G-6 had one but the G-14 didn't. thanks for the information!

 

[Njaco]

Afew more - possibly some that have been seen before or posted already.

 

[Gnomey]

Good stuff Chris!

 

[Njaco]

Some more...sources unknown...

 

[Wayne Little]

Scratch that profile with the Black W and 100 wreath, it is Gordon Gollobs 109F.

 

[Njaco]

I thought was suspect.

 

[Njaco]

Found this over on Falkeins website....