Help with BF 109, II./ JG 27, Obfw. Erich Krenzke

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  1. Maccullagh

    Maccullagh New Member

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    Hi,

    You will see this request on other sites but I require all the help I can get.

    I have a photo of a crashed BF 109 F4 that other kind people have identified as possibly being Obfw. Erich Krenzke plane from II./ JG 27 .

    The setting is El Adam (lybia) in 1942.

    I require as much information on Obfw. Erich Krenzke, his plane and any other photos of his unit, especially a description of the colour and markings.

    Any pictures of BF 109s that had crashed around El Adam or near bye in 1942 would be appreciated.

    The situation at this time is that 2 have identified the plane as possibly being Erich's but information from a third indicates that the Erich had a different number.

    The Werknumber for his machine was 8774.

    The plot thickens.

    Thanks

    Regards
    Rick
     
  2. DerAdlerIstGelandet

    DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crew Chief
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    I am doing some research but I think I need more info from you.
     
  3. Maccullagh

    Maccullagh New Member

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    DerAdlerIstGelandet,

    Thank you. I will supply a copy of the photograph as soon as I work out how to post it. I will try and provide a summary of all replies that I have as soon as I can.

    Rick
     
  4. DerAdlerIstGelandet

    DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crew Chief
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    Erich here is probably the one who will be able to get your some info. He seems to have all the info when it comes to Luftwaffe pilots. He is world of info and can probably help you.
     
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    I'll see if I can help.
     
  6. Maccullagh

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    Hi,

    I have uploaded a copy of my photo that I require information about ( I hope)

    Location is El Adam, Lybia 1942.

    I need to identify this BF 109 and any informarion would be appreciated.

    Rick
     

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    the information if you can understand it is posted on TOCH.

    the pilot was POW and crashed yellow 9, bellied in 100 % damaged/destroyed, F-4/Trop, wrk nummer 8774. He was from 6./JG 27 and was downed due to aerial combat. Second gruppe - might red or most likely yellow though the black/white photo does not show it clearly

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    Erich,

    Thanks for your information and to all of the others.

    I think that I have enough information from a lot of experts to conclude that the plane belonged to Obfw. Erich Krenzke .

    As I am new to this could you explain what TOCH is please.

    Also does anyone have information on the colours used on this plane. That is what paint codes were used.

    I have this software that allows black and white photos to be coloured and would not mind having a go of colouring it.

    Could anyone point me to a publication to show the marking types for this plane as it is a little different to other plane of JG 27.

    The main interest is the positioning of the white fuselage band and the Gruppe bar.

    Regards

    Rick
     
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    I now have the service record of my father and the plane can not be of Erich Krenzke as my father was in North Africa July 1941 with a return to Australian soil of April 1942.

    As Erich was shot down May 1942 the plane in the phoro can not be his.

    I would like to thank all that replied to this post and I will continue the research.

    Regards

    Rick Maccullagh
     
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  11. seesul

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    :shock: what a chance!Wow!
    I still say this forum is the best I know.
    Vielen Dank Herr Krenzke für Ihre Antwort!
     
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    I agree with Roman.What a chance !!!

    :D :D :D
     
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    Wow, Horst...maybe you could post some pics and info for us to see, many of us here would love to see it!

    Hoping you will indulge us....AND welcome to the forum!:D
     
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    Like the rest of them I would love to see and hear more about your father's pictures and log if you get a chance.
     
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