Have been rereading a book I have had in my library for many years. The Bantam edition, which is what I have was published in 1979, so I think my book dates back roughly to that time. The authors are a Brit and American and the subject is the LW aces. We all know that the LW had some pilots who racked up huge totals. However, an interesting comparison is made in the book; between the American, Bob Johnson, who had 28 credits and Werner Moelders, who had 68. Johnson required 91 missions to get 28 kills. Moelders required 142 missions to get his first 28 kills. The point of this exercise was to show that the LW totals of the high scoring pilots were very credible because they flew so many missions compared to the Allied pilots. The authors go into great detail to explain the LW requirements for getting credit for a kill. I have no doubt that the LW was careful about awarding kills, but I wonder if there has ever been a careful analysis done to compare the credits given some of their high scoring pilots with the Allies' records of friendly AC actually shot down on that day. Lundstrom, in his books did a careful comparison of US and Japanese records and the results were that the credits went down substantially. An example would be, and I don't mean to denigrate the LW's pilot's skills, the day that Marseille shot down 17 British single engined fighters. Do British records reflect those shoot downs of those particular models of fighters that day in that area? I wonder if Hartmann's kills were actually compared with the Allies' records, assuming the Soviet records were available and accurate, thay would not almost be cut in half like Lundstrom's research in the Pacific seems to have done? Or, for that matter, do Johnson's credits square with German records for LW AC lost to enemy action that day?