How Europe Went to War in 1914 (1 Viewer)

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Re: Posts 101 and 102:

Parsifal, were your hands cramped into claws by the time you were done typing all that? Man, you must either have carpal tunnel syndrome or are gunning for it. Wow!

 

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Don, Britain and France are democracies. That's how they're ideologically-aligned.

True, but Russia was a totalitarian, almost despotic, monarchy, yet they aligned with a democratic France.

 

[VBF-13]

True, but Russia was a totalitarian, almost despotic, monarchy, yet they aligned with a democratic France.

Russia had the equivalent of their "French Revolution" in 1917. They went the way you said with it, to that totalitarian extreme, that's true. They're not a perfect ideological fit.

 

[DonL]

After some research in my private documents I have found the original report of the german 8. Army

"Meldung AoK 8 (heute 4 Uhr a.m. 2. August 1914) Bahnzerstörungsversuch und Vormarsch zwei Schwadronen Kosaken auf Johannisburg. Dadurch tatsächlicher Kriegszustand."

Report of the 8. Army (today 4.00 a.m. 2. August 1914) Trying do destroy railways and two squadrons Cossacks on the rise to Johannisburg. Through this now actual state of war

An other report was from the General Staff:
"Nach Meldung AoK 8 (heute 4 Uhr p.m. 1. August 1914) Bahnzerstörungsversuch und Vormarsch zwei Schwadronen Kosaken auf Johannisburg. Dadurch tatsächlicher Kriegszustand."

After the report of the 8. Army (today 4.00 p.m. 1. August 1914) Trying do destroy railways and two squadrons Cossacks on the rise to Johannisburg. Through this now actual state of war

Here was some controversy, if the General Staff has manipulated the original report of the AoK 8 about twelve hours or if the AoK did report a wrong time.
The attack to Johannisburg is from KTB and primary sources and also confirmed.

Johannisburg at East Prussia!

 

[parsifal]

Re: Posts 101 and 102:

Parsifal, were your hands cramped into claws by the time you were done typing all that? Man, you must either have carpal tunnel syndrome or are gunning for it. Wow!

I can type 100wpm but I dont claim that stuff is mine...its called cut and paste. I didnt reference the stuff, because it does have some bits of my own as well, plus I lost the source material

 

[GrauGeist]

True, but Russia was a totalitarian, almost despotic, monarchy, yet they aligned with a democratic France.

Russia had the equivalent of their "French Revolution" in 1917. They went the way you said with it, to that totalitarian extreme, that's true. They're not a perfect ideological fit.

There is an old saying: "politicians make strange bedfellows".

In otherwords, the hardest of enemies will "bury the hatchet" if they think they can get something from the other.

 

[Marcel]

On another note...

Marcel, I think you are the member in this thread with the best understanding of what led and caused WW1. You certainly look at things the most objectively. Personally I think it is much needed on this forum.

Thanks Chris, it's like back then, the Dutch were neutral My grandfather was guarding the border with Belgium as a soldier at the time, I intend to follow his example. I think understanding it is too much honour for me. It's so complex and many actions can be interpreted in different ways as you can see in this thread.

But if I can make a compliment myself, I think Parsifal is doing very well as well.

 

[parsifal]

Thats very kind of you marcel. much appreciated. Thers a lot of things we have not fully agreed upon but so what. this is a discussion amobgst friends and an exchange of information. I know more now than when this debate started. i hope i have returned the favour

 

[Marcel]

Exactly, what point is there in a discussion if you all agree . But you returned the favour, no worries there

 

[VBF-13]

Friction generates the heat which is necessary to generate the light.

 

[GrauGeist]

Friction generates the heat which is necessary to generate the light.

Wouldn't bacon grease fix that?

 

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I can type 100wpm but I dont claim that stuff is mine...its called cut and paste. I didnt reference the stuff, because it does have some bits of my own as well, plus I lost the source material

ah, you cheat. Well done!!!!

 

[silence]

Wouldn't bacon grease fix that?

And here we go again!

 

[VBF-13]

Wouldn't bacon grease fix that?

OK, this is my big opportunity. What is it with this bacon thing? I insist somebody tell me!

 

[GrauGeist]

OK, this is my big opportunity. What is it with this bacon thing? I insist somebody tell me!

Well...how would I explain this?

Perhaps perusing this thread may shed some light on the subject! http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/off-topic-misc/all-alright-world-33712.html

 

[Marcel]

No no, don't start, just search for the "all is allright with the world" thead and get the bacon out of this thread

 

[GrauGeist]

Sorry Marcel, I couldn't resist the temptation...

I know, I'm a bad man

 

[Marcel]

Bad Dave, you'll be spanked with bacon.

 

[VBF-13]

Well...how would I explain this?

Perhaps perusing this thread may shed some light on the subject! http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/off-topic-misc/all-alright-world-33712.html

Ah, the light of wisdom. I can see!

 

[Readie]

I have learnt a great deal from reading this thread.
Very informative and balanced.

Thanks guys.

John