how many piolts flew in ww1 and 2 and made ace

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    I know a few pilots had to fly in both but did any make ace
     
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    #2 tyrodtom, Dec 31, 2013
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    The only one I can think of that became a ace in both wars is Theo Osterkamp, 30+ in WW1, and 6 in WW2.

    There were several who made ace in WW1 and was still in uniform in WW2, but usually in such high rank that they weren't exposed to combat in WW2 , both Axis and Allied.

    There was also Harry Von Bulow Bothkamp, ace in both wars also, and on the Allied side there was a Vincent.
    There's a few more but it's a very short list, only 5 or 6 men that actually saw combat in both wars.
     
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    Wasn't Dr. Mix of the Luftwaffe also an ace?
     
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    Herman Goering should get an "honorable" mention at least. 22 kills in WW1, untold Luftwaffe aircrew sacrificed on the alter of incompetence in WW2...
     
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    #5 nuuumannn, Dec 31, 2013
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    Goering's nemesis in the Battle of Britain, Keith Park was also a Great War ace. Kept his hand in by scooting about in his own personal Hurricane, both in Britain and in Malta.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Park
     
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    Keith Park later scooted around in a personal Spitfire Vb while on Malta:

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    Harry Von B├╝low-Bothkamp, Kdr. JG2: at least 5 WW 1 claims and 12 WW 2.

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    Pedantically; Keith Park was never an Ace as there were no such things in the RFC/RNAS or RAF/FAA. Well done him nevertheless.
     
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    #8 tyrodtom, Jan 1, 2014
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    Keith Park had 5 full victories and over a dozen partials in WW1.
    So even though officially the RFC/RAF didn't approve of the practice of publicizing the exploits their individual pilots, he meets anyone else's standards for being called a ace.
     
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