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No one said "easily", you did.
Facts are, that the Me262 was built for speed and delivering a wicked punch to it's target...it was not intended to be a dog-fighter. There are several cases where the Me262, at the hands of a skilled pilot, was able to fight their way out of a group of P-51Ds or similar types, but this is the exception to the rule and a good number of Me262s caught in the same circumstances did not make it out alive.
Unlike a piston fighter, the Me262 could not quickly recover from bled-off speed by jumping the throttle and that left it in an exposed condition. Once it's speed was down, it was vulnerable. Add to that, it's inability to absorb damage to it's engine(s) unlike it's piston adversaries and the Allies knew that and more often than not, would aim for the engines just for this reason. Hits to the engine resulted in immediate and catastrophic results.
Ok, now you're just being ridiculous.Unlike a piston engine fighter the me 262 could retain his Energy through High speed turns much much better. Why should a 262 let its speed fell down? He could impose its own terms of dogfight.A High speed dogfight is still a dogfight. And at High speed had excellent agility. While most piston engine fighters could turn inside the turning circle of 262, it could fly faster in the perimeter of the circle. So to correct thing to say is " the 262 had to respect the tempest IF its pilot was stupid or inexperienced or outnumbered 20-1 or taken by surprise"
About the vulnerability of its engines, what i can say. Hits on its engines had catastrophic results, while hits on the engines of P51, Spitfire, Tempest, La7, P38, had positive results in their performance.Besides, the damage resistance of these planes is legendary
If you cannot land because a tempest is there you get rid of him or run out of fuel. As you can read from links here the ow set up escorts of FW 190s and flak alleys to protect them.Unlike a piston engine fighter the me 262 could retain his Energy through High speed turns much much better. Why should a 262 let its speed fell down? He could impose its own terms of dogfight.A High speed dogfight is still a dogfight. And at High speed had excellent agility. While most piston engine fighters could turn inside the turning circle of 262, it could fly faster in the perimeter of the circle. So to correct thing to say is " the 262 had to respect the tempest IF its pilot was stupid or inexperienced or outnumbered 20-1 or taken by surprise"
About the vulnerability of its engines, what i can say. Hits on its engines had catastrophic results, while hits on the engines of P51, Spitfire, Tempest, La7, P38, had positive results in their performance.Besides, the damage resistance of these planes is legendary
Ok, now you're just being ridiculous.
If the Me262 was such a wunderwaffe, why didn't it win the war? Why then, if the Me262 was so freakin' awesome, how did it get shot down in the numbers that it did?
Wishful thinking does not change history...the Me262 was not a dog fighter. Holding high-speed in a turn means a wider arc and anything that can drop it's speed substantially can turn inside that arc. The Me262 could not drop it's speed to get inside the arc and hope to increase it's speed after pulling such a manouver without leaving it's ass dangling out there for an adversary to shoot full of holes.
You just dont get it. The me 262 had a wider arc but was flying much much faster on its arc. The piston engined fighters could initially turn inside that arc but flying in a much slower speed could not attack the me and soon would loose even more speed.All me had to do was to keep its speed and sooner or later would find a firing opportunity
How do you accomplish that when taking off and landing?
I am still trying to figure out how a plane flying a larger diameter circle ever gets the plane flying the smaller diameter circle in it's sights, especially if the plane with the larger circle has a higher stalling speed.
I am still trying to figure out how a plane flying a larger diameter circle ever gets the plane flying the smaller diameter circle in it's sights, especially if the plane with the larger circle has a higher stalling speed.
The tempest was slower than the. 262 but at lower altitudes the 262 wasless manouverable and responsive .....it there for the tempest deserved respect........can weYou too Shortround6,you too?!?!?!
I do get it, much better than you, aparently.You just dont get it. The me 262 had a wider arc but was flying much much faster on its arc. The piston engined fighters could initially turn inside that arc but flying in a much slower speed could not attack the me and soon would loose even more speed.All me had to do was to keep its speed and sooner or later would find a firing opportunity