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That must be a tricky search. Here is the RM12 engine from SAAB Gripen engine (per Wiki):I think that they need to find an alternative engine. It has been reported that Trump has blocked the sale to Columbia because he will not allow the transfer of the engine.
Theoretically any new Gripen sales are going to be for the E/F variant which has the F414-GE-39E (RM16), this essentially rules out the M88 I believe, The EJ200 would remain a contender though:That must be a tricky search. Here is the RM12 engine from SAAB Gripen engine (per Wiki):
Length: 4.04 m (13 ft 3 in)
Diameter: 0.87 m (2 ft 10 in)
Dry weight: 1,054 kg (2,324 lb)
Maximum thrust: 18,100 lbf with afterburner
The Eurojet EJ200 (Used in Eurofighter Typhoon) seems like a good match, being lighter, narrower and more powerful.
Length: 4.0 m (13.1 ft)
Diameter: 0.74 m (2.4 ft)
Dry Weight: 989 kg (2,180 lb)
Thrust: 20,200 lbf with afterburner
There's also the Safran M88-2 (Used in Dassault Rafale), which is smaller, but less powerful. And France/Dassault may not want to power its competitor.
Length: 3.53 m (11.6 ft)
Diameter: 0.69 m (2.3 ft)
Dry Weight: 897 kg (1,977 lb)
Thrust: 16,800-17,500 lbf with afterburner
The EJ200 option was off the table in the last decade, but it's different times now.
F414/RM16 | EJ200 | |
| Diameter | 89 cm | 73.66 cm |
| Length | 391 cm | 398.78 cm |
| Weight | 1110 kg | 988.83 kg |
| Thrust | 57.8 kN Military / 97.9 kN Afterburner | 60 kN Military / 90 kN Afterburner |
| SFC | 23.9 g/kN.s Military / 49.3 g/kN.s Afterburner | 22 g/kN.s Military / 48 g/kN.s Afterburner |
| Air Flow | 77.1 kg/s | 76 kg/s |
They may have and certainly probably paid for it though I am certain GE still holds the IP.If I remember correctly Volvo Flygmotor helped developing F414/RM16 engine....
Maybe yesterday'sI think that they need to find an alternative engine. It has been reported that Trump has blocked the sale to Columbia because he will not allow the transfer of the engine.
The Duchy of Grand Fenwick is next. We hold grudges.Maybe yesterday'stariffs pushed Columbia...
Colombia turns to Swedish Gripen E fighter jet after the US tries to force F-16 sale through political pressure and trade threats
Breaking News: Saab Gripen E/F Selected by Colombia in Fighter Jet Competition Against US F-16armyrecognition.com
That's two LATAM wins for SAAB. Brazil also chose the SAAB Gripen due to significant tensions in US-Brazil relations. In this case after the 2013 revelations by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about US surveillance of Brazil.The Duchy of Grand Fenwick is next. We hold grudges.
I already dumped my Lockheed Martin stock. At a loss. Lockheed Martin. The F-35 people. Glad I bought more Rheinmetall.That's two LATAM wins for SAAB. Brazil also chose the SAAB Gripen due to significant tensions in US-Brazil relations. In this case after the 2013 revelations by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about US surveillance of Brazil.
If I'm a sales guy at Lockheed-Martin or Boeing I'd be telling that tool to shut his hole. As for Canada, if the Gripen is good enough for NATO members Sweden, the Czech Republic and Hungary, plus South Africa, Thailand, Brazil, Malaysia, Switzerland and now Columbia, I'd say it's good enough for Canada too.
You certainly could be right. Personally I was surprised by the news that the UK Government were more likely to by F35's instead of more Typhoons. Politics aside, how you can even guess what the final cost of an F35 will be in view of all the uncertainty regarding tariffs, what they apply to and what the rates are likely to be, I have no idea.Maybe yesterday'stariffs pushed Columbia...
Colombia turns to Swedish Gripen E fighter jet after the US tries to force F-16 sale through political pressure and trade threats
Breaking News: Saab Gripen E/F Selected by Colombia in Fighter Jet Competition Against US F-16armyrecognition.com
With the US declaring a trade war on the UK, London needs to look elsewhere. Skip the F-35 except the B's needed for the carriers. Buy more Tranche 4 Eurofighters while pushing ahead on the GCAP in collaboration with Japan and Italy. That's where the future lies.You certainly could be right. Personally I was surprised by the news that the UK Government were more likely to by F35's instead of more Typhoons.
Totally and absolutely agree with you.With the US declaring a trade war on the UK, London needs to look elsewhere. Skip the F-35 except the B's needed for the carriers. Buy more Tranche 4 Eurofighters while pushing ahead on the GCAP in collaboration with Japan and Italy. That's where the future lies.
Can you imagine Britain, Japan and Italy collaborating on a fighter in the late 1930s? I'm reminded of Herbert Smith and team formerly of Sopwith who moved to Japan in the 1920s to work with Mitsubishi on the the 1MF (Navy Type 10) fighter, which contributed to Japan's later fighter development. Of course the GCAP is much of a collaboration of equals rather than a consultation project.
It has just been announced that the Gripen is being offered with the EJ230 jet engine, a version of the EJ200. The down side is that it is more expensive the upside is that it frees the USA from having any control over the sale of the aircraft and you get a higher performance.