JAS 39 Gripen is growing up....

[MiTasol]

I think we will see many more Grippin's and other weapons replacing American "equivalents" because the US is now being seen in many markets now as an unreliable supplier as a result of the on again off again supply of weapons to Ukraine and its supporters as well as the US selling weapons then refusing to allow the customer to use them in the manner the purchaser believes they should be.

Switzerland is also now seen as unreliable because of their vetos on supply and resale to Ukraine and it supporters.

 

[GTX]

Any links to official announcements? I get nothing out of EuroJet, SAAB, BAE, Airbus, Rolls-Royce or MTU Aero.

I'm not going to believe it until there's an agreement on paper. EuroJet has been offering various versions of the EJ200 to all and sundry since the end of the 1990s - SAAB for the Gripen, HAL for the LCA and then the Tejas MK 2, ASELSAN for the TF-X and Korean Aerospace for the KF-X and to any European government that would listen about the Eurofighter.

Proposals were reportedly based around two engine concepts - a "ready now" engine (EJ220 or EJ230) that was avalilable with either 10% or 15% more thrust and potentially thrust vectoring, or a more ambitious "future growth" engine with either 30% or 35% more thrust (EJ260 or EJ270).

Rolls-Royce and MTU Aero have both done work on the EJ200's low pressure compressors, thermal management systems and hot section materials (the EJ200 being a very hot engine), in order to make them more compatible with single-engine fighters. The issue is that these aren't real engines - I think a single uprated "EJ230" core was run about 20 years ago. There's some kind of mock-up engine that used to go to European defense shows.

Plus, the combination of GE and the F414 seems to have cleaned EuroJet's clock everytime an EJ200 derivative has been in the running on a project - reportedly on factors around engine price, deliery timing, maintence/parts availabilty and support localisation.

This is the only reference I see:


View: https://youtu.be/kInuoc_hO1M?si=QPseNl7hcNAayFWk

I would take it with a fistful of salt at this stage.

 

[Lucky13]

Is Peru following in the footsteps of Colombia?

Sweden authorizes the signing of agreements to finalize the sale of 12 Saab Gripen E/F fighter jets to the Peruvian Air Force

Building on the recent selection of the JAS-39 Gripen E/F by the Colombian Aerospace Force, Sweden is stepping up its efforts to position Saab’s fighter

www.zona-militar.com

 

[GTX]

Portugal approaches Saab to purchase Gripen fighter jets following withdrawal from US F-35 program

Portugal approaches Saab to purchase Gripen fighter jets following withdrawal from US F-35 program

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[Admiral Beez]

Is Peru following in the footsteps of Colombia?

Sweden authorizes the signing of agreements to finalize the sale of 12 Saab Gripen E/F fighter jets to the Peruvian Air Force

Building on the recent selection of the JAS-39 Gripen E/F by the Colombian Aerospace Force, Sweden is stepping up its efforts to position Saab’s fighter

www.zona-militar.com

Maybe Peru's MiG-29s and Mirage 2000s can go to Ukraine?

Peru–Ukraine relations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't think potential SAAB customers in the Americas or NATO need to worry about the Gripen's US-origin engine and potential White House vetoes. General Electric needs the business and would raise hell if POTUS declares that its engines cannot be licensed or sold to friendly states.

 

[Dimlee]

Well, Ukraine said it would buy more Patriot systems and could get funding for that (not from the US), So far, no public response from Washington. Let's see if Raytheon raises hell or bows its head.

 

[Denniss]

they probably need multiple european countries as middleman - they buy them and forward them to Ukraine. Or they keep the new ones and send the older ones.

 

[Glider]

Well, Ukraine said it would buy more Patriot systems and could get funding for that (not from the US), So far, no public response from Washington. Let's see if Raytheon raises hell or bows its head.

I know where my money would be if I had to guess.

 

[MiTasol]

Well, Ukraine said it would buy more Patriot systems and could get funding for that (not from the US), So far, no public response from Washington. Let's see if Raytheon raises hell or bows its head.

Going back a few days Trump said no because Ukraine started the war and should not have invaded a bigger nation.

Trump Derides Zelensky's Request To Buy $15B Worth Of Patriot Air Defense Systems

The Ukrainian leader now says he wants to purchase ten Patriot air defense systems from the United States.

www.twz.com

 

[Admiral Beez]

Going back a few days Trump said no because Ukraine started the war and should not have invaded a bigger nation.

Trump Derides Zelensky's Request To Buy $15B Worth Of Patriot Air Defense Systems

The Ukrainian leader now says he wants to purchase ten Patriot air defense systems from the United States.

www.twz.com

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How are my American neighbours so dumb to believe this gaslighting shite? 70% of you either voted Orange or didn't vote at all - this is on you.

 

[ThomasP]

Most Americans do not believe that Ukraine started the war - not even the people who voted for Trump. Most people who voted for Trump did so for other reasons (such as the immigration issues) or in effect voted anti-Democrat (mostly due to their social engineering agenda) and/or anti-mainstream Republican, in both of the latter cases because they feel that neither the Democratic party nor the mainstream Republic party are accomplishing what they (the voters) want.

Having said that, and in spite of the fact that I do not have any problem (personally) getting into political arguments, please stop making pointless political comments re the current administrations behavior or the political stances of the various factions in US politics. You will accomplish nothing re the political situation in the US (Trump will be president until Jan'29 regardless of anything you or others on the forum say - pro or con) and the only thing you may accomplish is getting this thread shut down.

 

[Lucky13]

Gripen E's AI revolution unleashed in stunning combat maneuvers


View: https://youtu.be/PDRboMKnjPo?si=J-Podw3CIursf1G3

 

[Lucky13]

View: https://youtu.be/x3j7kwSLCpU?si=Lk0zCrkGkAqXKn9d

 

[GTX]

This is more made up stories I suspect. There has been no comments on this from SAAB

 

[Lucky13]

View: https://youtu.be/wES0gnEuaEU?si=KYbC_cUB9-ZMs32z

 

[MiTasol]

This is more made up stories I suspect. There has been no comments on this from SAAB

And more than one project has died as the RR costs escalate massively.

 

[Lucky13]

View: https://youtu.be/KwgQQaTzOnM?si=LT1TV3b7bFPYtWR1

 

[Lucky13]

View: https://youtu.be/_jY4tglmuH0?si=KbPndNPERFVZRIkZ

 

[MiTasol]

View: https://youtu.be/_jY4tglmuH0?si=KbPndNPERFVZRIkZ

I was enjoying this video but wondering where that crap awful background noise was coming from. After closing every other tab I only had him and the crap noise so I turned it off.

 

[Jager52]

Which major model manufacturer will step-up and produce a well-engineered, accurate model of the Gripen E/F? After all the 1:1 version has been in service since 2016. Now with other nations looking for alternatives to the F35, this has become a more significant subject. We really don't need anymore Mustangs, FW190s or 109s.

Jager