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engineering realities. For me personally, experience setting up and running race engines through various stages of modification (ie. various classes of racing). I stuck with the same engine type through all these so it was instructive particularly about running temperatures vs modification and the role of octane.
I could speak either anecdotally or simply reiterate the engineering guidelines. Increasing octane does absolutely nothing to solve a high running temperature, but it can help with pinging except for one major problem you introduced. You want to raise the octane used by the 601A to C3 fuel and raise the boost for higher climb rating output, to 1475PS at the climb setting no less. Aside from the fact that 605D running C3 can only manage 1300PS at steigleistung, your engine idea still runs just as hot as before, and any benefit regarding predetonation of simply raising fuel octane gets blown out of the water by use of a higher boost.
So you've got an engine which burns pistons under loading, and if it runs at high power settings for any length of time it opens up the seals and bursts into flames, which is just what the 605A used to do on B4.
So let's say you used C3 and didn't raise the boost, it has the same output as before so that's no improvement (raising octane does not improve output by itself) but it won't burn pistons as easy, then again it will be higher maintenance due to the additives being more corrosive in C3 than B4 (stipulated by German wartime fuel production/research documents available on the web). And you've still got the problem about overheat/flaming inherent to the A block. The problem was inadequate oiling for what is basically a 601E with a greater internal capacity. More cubic inches means more cfm means higher operating temperatures.
The overheat problems were never solved for the A block ostensibly until 1945 in the ASB/ASC, which probably uses the bottom end of the D block. The reason for the 605D development was to allow higher boost ratings to be used with the 605 engine, this is not about tensile strength but about operating temperatures. Piston burn was largely solved, but only for the throttle settings used on the 601E which were carried over to the 605A. For a little while it had to be detuned. The way they solved it was reshaping the piston crowns for better excavation of the cylinder, which helps with cylinder temperatures. It still couldn't exceed 1.42ata though, this measure just brought the 605A back to 601E tuning.
It overheated and then started pinging. If it didn't overheat it would run just fine at 1.42ata just like the 601E did. Secondly, even if the pilot carefully controlled the pinging (overheating engines ping worse under loading), like Marsielle did the overheating still caused the seals to open up and the engine flamed. The pilot could die this way, like Marsielle did.
So the motor was derated, I'd say Marsielle's death was the catalyst for this.
Even when piston crowns were improved in various batch redesigns, the engine remained derated for quite some time (it was an on again, off again situation as Kurfürst outlines citing documentation). Even when it was finally cleared for 1.42ata it was still a hot running engine compared to the 605D which has no recorded inherent reliability issues I've seen, and there are plenty of sources which state 1944 605A running with MW50/C3 had a dicey sondernot which could easily damage the engine within a few minutes. I've read nothing other than a reliable 10min sondernot for a 605D on MW50/B4 and a higher boost.
That alone should say something, and it directly infers precisely what I've been saying in mechanical terms.
Hey don't get me wrong, I'll stand corrected as readily as the next bloke, but I'm using clear logic here, with at least some historical reference and see no mechanically sound counter argument.
This has become an interesting engine thread
Increasing octane does absolutely nothing to solve a high running temperature
Wrong : Increasing the octane will allow a slower burning flame front that will produce lower Exhaust Gas Temperatures which in turn will radiate less heat . The combustion temperature will also be reduced . Especially if the engine is close to pre-detonating .
So you've got an engine which burns pistons under loading, and if it runs at high power settings for any length of time it opens up the seals and bursts into flames, which is just what the 605A used to do on B4 :
I dont understand the opens up the seals and bursts into flames bit ?
My assumption : Running higher boost pressures causes the piston rings to warp allowing more combustion pressures to leak past the rings into the oil sump pushing oil out of the breather and probably over the exhaust manifold causing fires ? I doubt the piston would burn a hole before the rings fried first .
raising octane does not improve output by itself : It actually does albeit a small amount . You can lean it out and change the timing on the engine to get the most out of it .
More cubic inches means more cfm means higher operating temperatures :
Raising capacity doesnt mean you have more to cool . A 24l engine running 5:1 compression ratio at 2000rpm will make far less heat than say a 5l engine running 15:1 compression at 10000 rpm . Heat is a factor of 3 main things : Engine size , combustion temperatures (fuel used and compression ratio) and RPM , there are other smaller factors of air flow over engine , radiator size etc
Does anyone know if the Pistons were forged or cast ?