MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
It is never useless to train pilots. But I find it strange that it was a G-12 that was used and not done sooner. G-12 came into service in 43 I think yes? 
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Gemhorse
Senior Airman
I recall reading somewhere recently that a group in Europe are restoring a two-seater Bf-109...
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
A group in Germany creates parts for 109s and I think they might be working on a 109. They also make replicant Fw-190s if any one is interested.
As for the Spitfire IXe a good pick and better then the P-51D, but I would take one of the Italian fighters say the Re 2002 or the 205V if it was built to the same quality as the US plane.
As for the Spitfire IXe a good pick and better then the P-51D, but I would take one of the Italian fighters say the Re 2002 or the 205V if it was built to the same quality as the US plane.
Lightning Guy
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Those may have been the best fighters the Italians had to offer, but there were plenty of other fighters that were better.
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
Yes I will give you that, but if they could have been produced in the same numbers and crewed with the same leavel of pilot is what I was thinking. As it was the Italians were out of the war before these plane really got rolling.
They would have made being in a bomber in Italy much more difficult.
They would have made being in a bomber in Italy much more difficult.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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i've read about them, they look really realistic, you'd never tell they were fake without a close up inspection, they're planning to make 12 in total...................
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
But they are not "fake" they are reall airworthy planes. If you use Fake to say they are not aircaft built from 1935 to 1945, then yes, they are "fake". I like the turm repicates, and why not build new airfrimes. I would rather see one of these go racing in Reno or on a BoB flight, then a bird with real war history that should be presurved. WE have few aircraft who flew in the war and can tell that story.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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how can you say that, any original aircraft that can fly should do just that, look at PA474, it does allot of flying, doesn't mean it's not being preserved, the RAF maintain her to an unbelievable standard, all parts are original, the only part that's not original is the addition of a secondary controll system..............................
cheddar cheese
Major General
The Reno air races....now thats spectacular
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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exactily, you can't keep planes on the ground, they belong in the air...........
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
Lanc, yes they should be preserved! What I want you to understand is that if we make replicas of say a bf 209 or a Spitfire then they can be flown more, harder and under war conditions for say the airraces or Living History stuff. The planes with cobat can still and should still be flown and maintained, but we could really see how a spitfire stood up to a bf 109, or an A6M. With this thought we could preserve these planes for future generations.
We might not be able to recreate all the types but some of the fighters maybe yes.
We might not be able to recreate all the types but some of the fighters maybe yes.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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and they are, very well, like i said, look at PA474, it's in perfect condition...........
cheddar cheese
Major General
the lancaster kicks ass said:
the reno air races arent a light-hearted potter over the desert...
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
WTF is a "potter"???
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
I agree with you all, but if say at an air race we could race a P-51 and Ki-84 both that are replicas then they can be pushed in nearly war like condiditions. If they were to crash or the pilots have to bail we would not be lossing an ireplaceable plane, but just a coppy. what do you think of that?
cheddar cheese
Major General
a "potter" is english slang for "going slowly"
MichaelHenley
Senior Airman
My mum uses that a bit.... and shes only remotely british!
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Crazy
Senior Airman
MP-Willow said:I agree with you all, but if say at an air race we could race a P-51 and Ki-84 both that are replicas then they can be pushed in nearly war like condiditions. If they were to crash or the pilots have to bail we would not be lossing an ireplaceable plane, but just a coppy. what do you think of that?
I think I should love to own a racing replica P-51 8)
cheddar cheese
Major General
id prefer the real thing, then when you crash you have the fun of restoring it
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