Nuclear Explosions since 1945 - Flash Animation

[Matt308]

WTF are you talking about, krieghund?? Your post sounds like the rantings of a madman. How about some context for that drivel.

Krieghund, you left a very insulting visitor message for me calling me out. If you don't like Mods asking you to provide evidence for your farfetched claims, then you can leave. In fact I'll be glad to help you.

I'll ask you again... you have any evidence of the BS you posted above? And I highly encourage you to provide the forum with non-disparaging response. Highly.

 

[ccheese]

Lock and load.....

Charles

 

[tail end charlie]

Didnt the UK use proven US warhead designs? Or even be in the devoplement of some of the warheads and take advantage of US tests?

I think it was more the signing up to polaris and later trident.

on the positive side it all gave a bikini a new name.

 

[CliffyB]

Well according to that over 3/4 of the surface of the Earth should be a nuclear wasteland full of mutant zombies and 1,000 mile deep craters. Its a miracle any of us are still alive!

 

[tail end charlie]

Well according to that over 3/4 of the surface of the Earth should be a nuclear wasteland full of mutant zombies and 1,000 mile deep craters. Its a miracle any of us are still alive!

There still are huge tracts of land contaminated in Australia Asia and the USA, the USA has paid out over 500 million dollars compensation to downwinders, it was actually a tourist attraction in Nevada. Muroroa and Bikini atols are still uninhabited and the Marshall Islands are the most radioctively contaminated on earth with residents suffering birth defects and cancers.

 

[Matt308]

No doubt that above and below ground testing is highly deleterious to normal health margins.

But you have to admit that the number of nuclear ordnance expended kinda dismisses the supposed myth that a nuclear winter would immediately occur. Don't get me wrong, I understand that 200,000 of these things lit off all at once would certainly have a major effect upon life as we know it, but I find the Carl Sagan predictions politically motivated.

 

[krieghund]

Krieghund, you left a very insulting visitor message for me calling me out. If you don't like Mods asking you to provide evidence for your farfetched claims, then you can leave. In fact I'll be glad to help you.

I'll ask you again... you have any evidence of the BS you posted above? And I highly encourage you to provide the forum with non-disparaging response. Highly.

Friend

First, I responded off line as to not drag this into the open forum

Second, your response was less than kind and my private mail to you was a criticism for decorum in the forum

Thirdly, if you have observed my other posts you know I do back up factually and I have studied this subject for some time and have evidence that begs answers

I have never disparaged anyone on this forum

Regards

Charlie

 

[BombTaxi]

No doubt that above and below ground testing is highly deleterious to normal health margins.

But you have to admit that the number of nuclear ordnance expended kinda dismisses the supposed myth that a nuclear winter would immediately occur. Don't get me wrong, I understand that 200,000 of these things lit off all at once would certainly have a major effect upon life as we know it, but I find the Carl Sagan predictions politically motivated.

Nuclear winter would occur in a totally different scenario - a nuclear war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact would have seen more warheads detonated in a few days than in human history up to that point. With accompanying destruction of infrastructure and governance (the primary objective of the detonations), nuclear winter would be almost inevitable. Don't forget that even in the late 50s when the US were detonating large numbers of test warheads, the frequency of explosion was less than would be encountered in a war, and they were carried out under semi-controlled circumstances, away from inhabited areas, significantly mitigating, although not eliminating the worst biological side effects of the explosions.

 

[Matt308]

Friend

First, I responded off line as to not drag this into the open forum

Second, your response was less than kind and my private mail to you was a criticism for decorum in the forum

Thirdly, if you have observed my other posts you know I do back up factually and I have studied this subject for some time and have evidence that begs answers

I have never disparaged anyone on this forum

Regards

Charlie

First, you posted your complaint as a visitor message for everyone on the forum to see.

Second, my comment holds and as pissed off as I was about your public response and dragging the Mods through the mud, I would suggest you got off easy. Others might not have been so kind.

Third, I'm still waiting for your "evidence" that would prove to be the most historic news finding of the century to date.

Now, you can choose to drop this (highly recommended) or post your evidence of either the Japanese or German detonation.

 

[krieghund]

First, you posted your complaint as a visitor message for everyone on the forum to see.

Second, my comment holds and as pissed off as I was about your public response and dragging the Mods through the mud, I would suggest you got off easy. Others might not have been so kind.

Third, I'm still waiting for your "evidence" that would prove to be the most historic news finding of the century to date.

Now, you can choose to drop this (highly recommended) or post your evidence of either the Japanese or German detonation.

I sincerely owe you an apology. Please excuse my ignorance of the messaging system, I was under the impression that I was only contacting you. To further show my ignorance could you inform me how I can view the visitor messages.

 

[Matt308]

Just click on your (or any forum members) name. It will take you to the user profile.

 

[syscom3]

When the nukes would be detonated en mass upon cities and missle fields, there would be a lot of smoke generated from the burning cities, refineries, forests and prairies.

That's what would be the cause of a "nuclear winter". Too what degree it would be is open to debate. It might be as severe as predicted, or it may not. Either way, I hope we never find out.

 

[Matt308]

Amen brother. Amen.

 

[vikingBerserker]

I thought the Uranium enrichment that the Germans tried never resulted of anything. Did the U-235 shipment to Japan actually happen or is it a theory?

 

[krieghund]

I thought the Uranium enrichment that the Germans tried never resulted of anything. Did the U-235 shipment to Japan actually happen or is it a theory?

This book was published in 2000 and does an excellent job of detailing the mission and preceding events prior to its voyage to Portsmouth in May of 1945. It is documented that the U-boat and its escort had two stops before Portsmouth. The author does not subscribe to the issue if the fissionable (if it was) material aboard the U-234 was in part delivered to the Japan via the Enola Gay or Bock's Car or if an assembled weapon was retrieved.

Very in-depth coverage of the crew members and most of the inventory. I say most of the inventory because the author alludes to the fact that many different agencies (as will as drunken sailors looting the ship) had their finger in the pie and some items were removed stealthy prior to the official USN inventory being performed.

The author also discusses the subject of the gold/lead containers containing what the on board Japanese Engineer/scientist labeled as U-235. But passenger that had not too a lengthy description but is vital to the fusing problems experienced in the Manhattan project, Herr Schlicke. He is better described in the books on Paper Clip.

I will be providing more stuff as soon as I can find it. I need to find my copies of letters from Oppenheimer to General Groves written in early 1945 describing the status of the program and the earliest a practical weapon could be assembled. Then U-234 came along and the status changed. Please bear with me.