P-40 in the Aleutians, Alaska
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Nice shot...some great detail there...
Wildcat
Major
Cool. Can never have too many P-40 pics!
Nice shot!
mudpuppy
Senior Airman
Nice photo, thanks for posting it.
Derek
Derek
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
Beautiful!
If you have MS Paint you can select "Image", then "Stretch Skew" and resize it that way.
If you have MS Paint you can select "Image", then "Stretch Skew" and resize it that way.
Pong
Staff Sergeant
Great pic! Thanks for sharing Tac!
-Arlo
-Arlo
ThunderThud
Senior Airman
Nice Pic ! I never saw this one before.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
On a side note more then a few of the USAAF P40's were flown by RCAF pilots as they were trained P40 pilots and available
Colin1
Senior Master Sergeant
Some heavy-duty weathering around that wing root and landing gear fairing
Aaron Brooks Wolters
Brigadier General
Very interesting photo.
Thank you for sharing Tac.
Thank you for sharing Tac.
Thats an interesting pic !. I've attached a pic I took at Flying Legends back in 2007 of a P40 with an Aleutian colour scheme for comparison that raises a few questions from me that may not all be attributable to differences in the marks....
Interesting to note on the old picture....
Is that a complete 'leather ?' shroud over the exhaust stubs (looks like a small grab string at each end to pull out the stub 'caps ?.
Lack of 'cooling ?' panel immediately behind the prop spinner (on the modern pic, the panel has 5 x rows of 3 holes).
No external gunsight ring and bead on the old pic.
Routing of brake pipes compared to the modern pic
What is the 'hole' in the wing root (gun camera ?) that is not on the modern pic (unless its at the front of the undercarriage leg fairing ?)
Extruding gun barrels on the modern pic...Was this due to different guns originaly installed or just to make it look good for airshow fans
Slight variations on the Tigers head.
No apparent undercarriage down 'warning 'rod' showing on top of the wing (painted yellow in the modern pic.)
Is that a hole for firing flares through (about midway between the front of the main windshield side screen and the wing) thats not on the modern pic
Interesting to note on the old picture....
Is that a complete 'leather ?' shroud over the exhaust stubs (looks like a small grab string at each end to pull out the stub 'caps ?.
Lack of 'cooling ?' panel immediately behind the prop spinner (on the modern pic, the panel has 5 x rows of 3 holes).
No external gunsight ring and bead on the old pic.
Routing of brake pipes compared to the modern pic
What is the 'hole' in the wing root (gun camera ?) that is not on the modern pic (unless its at the front of the undercarriage leg fairing ?)
Extruding gun barrels on the modern pic...Was this due to different guns originaly installed or just to make it look good for airshow fans
Slight variations on the Tigers head.
No apparent undercarriage down 'warning 'rod' showing on top of the wing (painted yellow in the modern pic.)
Is that a hole for firing flares through (about midway between the front of the main windshield side screen and the wing) thats not on the modern pic
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DBII
Senior Master Sergeant
Nice photo, is there a story that goes with you getting it?
DBII
DBII
Here are a couple color ones from the Life collection.
wamly welcome
Sure all pro gamer are most welcome... if you can reach out to them it would be great!! Thanks a lot
Barf
Airman
To answer you questions re the differences.
Lack of 'cooling ?' panel immediately behind the prop spinner (on the modern pic, the panel has 5 x rows of 3 holes).
The Modern pic is of a P-40N, the wartime pic is of a P-40E, The 15 holes are for the carburator air filter on the N model
No external gunsight ring and bead on the old pic.
Often removed as surplus to requirements.
Routing of brake pipes compared to the modern pic
more than likely a personal choice by the owners.They could and were routed in all sorts of ways dependant on the length of the hoses and where you mount the "p" clips..
What is the 'hole' in the wing root (gun camera ?) that is not on the modern pic (unless its at the front of the undercarriage leg fairing ?)
Air duct for cockpit air vent.
Extruding gun barrels on the modern pic...Was this due to different guns originaly installed or just to make it look good for airshow fans
It looks like the wartime aircraft does not have its guns fitted. the modern pic seems to be the standard .50 cal fit.
No apparent undercarriage down 'warning 'rod' showing on top of the wing (painted yellow in the modern pic.)
Not fitted on the P-40E.
Is that a hole for firing flares through (about midway between the front of the main windshield side screen and the wing) thats not on the modern pic
it is a blue formation light. deleted on later models
Hope this clears things up for you.
Lack of 'cooling ?' panel immediately behind the prop spinner (on the modern pic, the panel has 5 x rows of 3 holes).
The Modern pic is of a P-40N, the wartime pic is of a P-40E, The 15 holes are for the carburator air filter on the N model
No external gunsight ring and bead on the old pic.
Often removed as surplus to requirements.
Routing of brake pipes compared to the modern pic
more than likely a personal choice by the owners.They could and were routed in all sorts of ways dependant on the length of the hoses and where you mount the "p" clips..
What is the 'hole' in the wing root (gun camera ?) that is not on the modern pic (unless its at the front of the undercarriage leg fairing ?)
Air duct for cockpit air vent.
Extruding gun barrels on the modern pic...Was this due to different guns originaly installed or just to make it look good for airshow fans
It looks like the wartime aircraft does not have its guns fitted. the modern pic seems to be the standard .50 cal fit.
No apparent undercarriage down 'warning 'rod' showing on top of the wing (painted yellow in the modern pic.)
Not fitted on the P-40E.
Is that a hole for firing flares through (about midway between the front of the main windshield side screen and the wing) thats not on the modern pic
it is a blue formation light. deleted on later models
Hope this clears things up for you.
Johnny Signor
Airman 1st Class
- 180
- Jan 5, 2008
the first photo and the Life magazine page the P-40's are from the 11th Fighter Squadron which was one of the squadrons of the 343rd Composite/Fighter Group, Gen Chennault's Son was a member of this squadron and if I recall he had a hand in the "Tiger" face cowling designs in Honor of his Dad's unit. I was also the "Unofficial" Squadrons emblem.
