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plan_D said:
Agreed pD. Aside from the little spat up there, the Aussies have allways been a very formidable fighting force and should be recognized for there achievements.
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plan_D said:Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.
Australia would do itself a few big favours with a development of an aviation industry. It's not just beneficial for ones own military, but the developments can provide money from abroad in sales and technology. And create diplomatic ties. Australia is big enough, and has the money to create this industry. But it seems, along with Canada, they've not thought it through and simply buy American.
plan_D said:Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.
The canadian aviation industry is probably larger than the German and very close if not larger then the Brits Bombardier is the worlds 3rd largest aircraft manufacturer ,Pratt Whitney Canada produces 34% of worlds small gas turbines and dominates the turbo prop market ,CAE manufactures 80% of the worlds simulators, 60% of new large aircraft landing gear ,14%of the worlds helicopters thats not to shoddyplan_D said:Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.
Australia would do itself a few big favours with a development of an aviation industry. It's not just beneficial for ones own military, but the developments can provide money from abroad in sales and technology. And create diplomatic ties. Australia is big enough, and has the money to create this industry. But it seems, along with Canada, they've not thought it through and simply buy American.
JeffK said:You cannot run a Military Aviation Industry based on building about 20 Aircraft a year. This would be excess to our needs, and at a cost which couldnt compete with the prices offered by Russia, the USA and Europe. There would be no overseas market for our extra aircraft.
Post WW2 we built the P51D (Including a version capable of 475mph) dh Vampires, Avro Lincolns, EE Canberra, Dassault Mirage IIIO and constructed (partially from OZ parts) the F/A18A.
But the 118 F/A18 has served 20 years, and until the F35 arrives has to continue. We purchased the F111 in the 70's, same story.
We dont see the US or UK or Europe interested in starting an industry, they have there own social economic problems to be solved.
As for WW2, the Wirraway was our first Military aircraft built in OZ in 1938, over 700 built. By wars end we had designed and built the Boomerang Woomera (2 only) plus built the Bristol Beaufort Beaufighter(To a improved standard to the British Version) dh Mosquito and were just producing the P-51D/K.
Not bad to move from the Wirraway to Mustang in 6-7 years.
built the Bristol Beaufort Beaufighter(To a improved standard to the British Version)
P38 Pilot said:Interesting. Lets all say that American aircraft are the best though!
It was worth a try...DerAdlerIstGelandet said:Um no. While the US is leading the industry right now and has the best aircraft on the market right now, there are plenty of great aircraft that come from all over the world.
pbfoot said:Bombardier owns Shorts
P38 Pilot said:What's Canadair?
they were more military built lots of 104s f5s etc102first_hussars said:Canadair was one of our forefront aircraft porduction companies, it was alot like boeing, because it designed mainly commercial aircraft.
How about the F-22 Annihilator as it is designed to annihilate anything else in the sky? Any thoughts on this idea?