Hi Plan_D
I haven't read through all of the posts hun, I just read through your first post on the thread.
About Britain, I fully understand where you are coming from and agree with much of what you said. But I dont think it reflects alot of the counrty and that's the problem in one way. It does reflect the industrial inner cities, which are areas we both live in.
Unfortunately, many decisions are maor by middle class members of parliment who live in roral parts of the counrty (those that came from working class back grounds often forget what its like once they are alright jack....pull the ladder up).
I agree with you in that inner cities are out of control and that dole-ites (those out of work) are a growing concern and the chav's are also on the increase.
But I have spentquite a bit of time recently staying with friends around the country and I can't believe the difference in where they live, to where I live. It has been an eye opener Plan. on the one hand it's nice to see that quite alot of Britain is not how I perceived it, but on the other hand, whilst those people live in ignorance they will not understand our true plight.
As for the immigration laws, Britain has the space for a more diverse community, what it does not have is the future wealth to support such a diverse community together with a low labour motivated (work shy) work force. Hence, future generations will not be able to retire under the ages of 70 or 80 years of age (work force = pentions contributions).So I see where your frustrations comes from. The sherkers spunge off the workers.
As for America, I do think you have got that wrong hun, as with here, parts of America are affluent and others are in a worse state than here. Having many cousins spread across the states and having been across the pond 9 times my self, trust me they have equally abismal problems.
And though I agree with you whole heartedly on where 'we' live, if you look around the globe, im thankful that I was born here, rather than in many other countries.
Plan I have worked hard to make sure that my son and daughter have the opportunities to get out of the inner city, I hope too that you get the same chance. I love Manchester it is a nice place, but I dont like a growing number of people who live in it, as they are really spoiling the place that I am very fond of. For the first time in my life........ I cant wait to leave it.
Warm hugs to you Plan and well done to you for your freedom of speech out burst (gud on ya lad).
(ps is anyone going to the Leeds festival in August?)
pps I went to Brooklands air and F1 museum a few weeks ago, well worth a visit
http://www.users.myisp.co.uk/~climengs/brooklands/brook_05.htm
also went to look at the Lancs (the plane not 'The' Lancs lol) in London's War Museum, she was beautiful!!!
http://www.tourist-information-uk.com/imperial-war-museum.htm