A4K
Brigadier General
That would be great if you can Terry, thanks mate! (Can I make an additional request for a shot on the radiator intake btw? 
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RAF Cosford air show, June 9th
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Airframes
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Consider it done!
E-mail me a list of specific details you want, and I'll do my best - or better if I can get permission to cross the line (doubtful on air show day though).
And clean your PM box - tried to reply re your PM about posting metal items, but couldn't as your boxes are full!
E-mail me a list of specific details you want, and I'll do my best - or better if I can get permission to cross the line (doubtful on air show day though).
And clean your PM box - tried to reply re your PM about posting metal items, but couldn't as your boxes are full!
A4K
Brigadier General
Cheers mate!
Just those I asked for ('Just'?
) would be great if possible: undercarriage legs, air intakes/radiators, nose interior (turret and passage from below), and flight engineers station. Cheers mate!
Just those I asked for ('Just'?
) would be great if possible: undercarriage legs, air intakes/radiators, nose interior (turret and passage from below), and flight engineers station. Cheers mate!- Thread starter
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Airframes
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OK mate. Highly unlikely I'll be able to get interior shots, as it's not normally open for internal viewing.
BUT! The next 'Open Cockpit' night they have, I'll see if I can get there. The FE station was basically the same as the Lanc, and access to the nose compartment was the same too - duck, contort, and squeeze under the instrument panel, down one step (on top of the de-icer tank), although of course everything forward of this was different, due to the glazing and lack of turret. The layout is shown in that cutaway I sent you, although not that clear in details.
BUT! The next 'Open Cockpit' night they have, I'll see if I can get there. The FE station was basically the same as the Lanc, and access to the nose compartment was the same too - duck, contort, and squeeze under the instrument panel, down one step (on top of the de-icer tank), although of course everything forward of this was different, due to the glazing and lack of turret. The layout is shown in that cutaway I sent you, although not that clear in details.
A4K
Brigadier General
Yep, almost the same, but the FE panel was moved forward adjacent the pilot, necessitating a more complicated seat folding mechanism (not completely clear in the drawing)
Just a minor detail though (but you know me...!), will be happy with whatever you can get though!
Just a minor detail though (but you know me...!), will be happy with whatever you can get though!
Hotntot
Senior Airman
Sounds like this'll be fun - even if it isn't Duxford. A Tempting trip. Good luck with the photo's Terry. From post 12 I can see you know exactly what you're doing. Worked for a photo studio myself once and we never expected more than a couple of usable transparencies per roll.
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Airframes
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Cheers mate. Yes, I was fully trained in Professional, studio and audio-visual photography, with a bit of motion-picture thrown in, before moving onto a Specialist job in Graphics/Reproduction photography and printing, working for that well-known photographic manufacturer. Got me into some interesting places, both as a Specialist and a photographer!
The problem with the Nikon DSLR, from my viewpoint, is that there are too may unneccessary features, which means some functions can't be accessed as rapidly as they could on film SLRs, a very real requirement for aviation photography. Obviously designed to make the camera more 'creative' for amateurs, and no doubt I'll get used to it eventually. I have to say though, the little Fuji 'bridge camera' I've been using for the last four years, apart from being easier to use, and handle, is not only more robust in construction but, for artificial light, 'table top' shots, it turns out better images, first time, than the Nikon!
OK, my knackered hands don't help things, but I find the Nikon somewhat clumsy, and off-balance, and I have the feeling that even able-bodied users might experience some handling problems. That said, it's quite nice overall, and hopefully will do the job for 'action' shots at a distance.
The problem with the Nikon DSLR, from my viewpoint, is that there are too may unneccessary features, which means some functions can't be accessed as rapidly as they could on film SLRs, a very real requirement for aviation photography. Obviously designed to make the camera more 'creative' for amateurs, and no doubt I'll get used to it eventually. I have to say though, the little Fuji 'bridge camera' I've been using for the last four years, apart from being easier to use, and handle, is not only more robust in construction but, for artificial light, 'table top' shots, it turns out better images, first time, than the Nikon!
OK, my knackered hands don't help things, but I find the Nikon somewhat clumsy, and off-balance, and I have the feeling that even able-bodied users might experience some handling problems. That said, it's quite nice overall, and hopefully will do the job for 'action' shots at a distance.
Hotntot
Senior Airman
Yep - I've got a Nikon FE which I've really enjoyed in the past but, of course, have moved on to digital - but only with a compact camera. So it's about time I got back into SLR with a digital unit as the results are really pleasing. I agree with about too many features on the DSLR's and not being able to 'get the shot' on the fly really quickly. That's one thing I really enjoyed with the film SLR. The FE is built around a chassis too making it really robust with a balanced weight and good ergonomics.
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I know exactly what you mean. I used these for thirty years - beautifully engineered, precision instruments - well balanced, extremely robust chassis, but light and easy to handle. They were easier to use for air to air shots than the Nikon F1 I also had, as they could be gripped well during high 'g' manouvres without wanting to go on an independent flight, or try to break your wrists!
I must have put literally thousands of rolls of film through both the OM1 bodies and they never let me down, and were still like new when I sold them last year - and I wish now I hadn't!!
The other two pics show the recently purchased Nikon and lenses, and the nice little Fuji bridge camera - a delight to use, and on 'full zoom' delivers some great long-distance shots, but not quite fully suitable for high-speed action shots of aircraft, due to the 'black-out' of the viewfinder between exposures.
I must have put literally thousands of rolls of film through both the OM1 bodies and they never let me down, and were still like new when I sold them last year - and I wish now I hadn't!!
The other two pics show the recently purchased Nikon and lenses, and the nice little Fuji bridge camera - a delight to use, and on 'full zoom' delivers some great long-distance shots, but not quite fully suitable for high-speed action shots of aircraft, due to the 'black-out' of the viewfinder between exposures.
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A4K
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I'm definitely not an expert photographer, but the best photos I ever took were when I had my old (manual) Zenit. Provided I adjusted for the light correctly, it took some beautiful clear shots, even better than Ivett's little digital camera which we now use!
Where the digital shines of course is no film being required, large photo storage, and ability to instantly check how the shot came out...
Nice looking camera there btw Terry. (And as an aside... what film do/did you guys prefer to use? I preferred Fuji 200)
Where the digital shines of course is no film being required, large photo storage, and ability to instantly check how the shot came out...
Nice looking camera there btw Terry. (And as an aside... what film do/did you guys prefer to use? I preferred Fuji 200)
Hotntot
Senior Airman
Ah, The trusty old OM1. I had one of those as well before the Nikon and it was a great camera to use. I would take it with me on my travels and it never let me down. Got rid of mine too, I think, and should have kept it as a back up. Thinking about purchasing a Nikkon one day - maybe a D700 but the Fuji camera looks like a nifty unit.
Fuji 200 is good. Used to work on a principle that Fuji was more biased towards the greens (good for landscape and nature) and Kodak more biased towards the reds (good for portraits). Don't know what you think on that Terry? Would it be fair enough as a general rule? There's Fujicolour Pro print film and also Velvia or Sensia - transparency films - which you'd probably only use for a special project because of the cost of processing. You get fantastic results, though, and it was the medium in the past for supplying photo libraries.
Of course, digital allows you to just keep on shooting without a thought to processing costs which is great for airshows as you can keep going until you 'get that shot'. But it still pays to know the rules of photography to get you there - and know how to break them. The great thing about my SLRs was finding my way around a manual camera which forced me to learn about aperture, speed, f-stops, focal lengths, etc and techniques like panning which give some great results for action/motion shots. And don't forget, polarizers and other (subtle) filters have their use.
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Airframes
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Yes, that's a fair assessment of the colour balances. I used Ektachrome, in various ASA ratings, and Kodachrome 64 for trannies, with Vericolour VPS for the few negative films I used. But then, guess who I worked for ! Film mostly on my stock budget, or cheap, and processing either free (done by me) or heavily discounted!
