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Catch22
Major
Awesome Geo, thanks.
B-17engineer
Colonel
Thank you Geo
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Benevolens Magister
Bit more complex than that I'm afraid.
The roundels were certainly changed, but spinners, and AEAF stripes, varied in their changes.
Theoretically, all 2 TAF aircraft were supposed to have black spinners, from late 1943. However, various orders and counter orders, specific to Wings, changed this back to 'Sky' spinners for some units, and confusion arose, not to mention anger. The anger mainly due to aircrew asked to undertake low-level ground attack, with, suddenly, a 'Sky' spinner acting as a marvelous aiming point for light flak and other gunners!
Consequently, variations of 'regulation' and actual combinations of these markings can be found, although after about late July '44, the AEAF stripes were removed from upper surfaces, but again, this resulted in varied examples of the stripes presentation.
Bottom line- each specific aircraft needs to be checked for these details, depending on location, and dates - the latter sometimes measured in days.
The roundels were certainly changed, but spinners, and AEAF stripes, varied in their changes.
Theoretically, all 2 TAF aircraft were supposed to have black spinners, from late 1943. However, various orders and counter orders, specific to Wings, changed this back to 'Sky' spinners for some units, and confusion arose, not to mention anger. The anger mainly due to aircrew asked to undertake low-level ground attack, with, suddenly, a 'Sky' spinner acting as a marvelous aiming point for light flak and other gunners!
Consequently, variations of 'regulation' and actual combinations of these markings can be found, although after about late July '44, the AEAF stripes were removed from upper surfaces, but again, this resulted in varied examples of the stripes presentation.
Bottom line- each specific aircraft needs to be checked for these details, depending on location, and dates - the latter sometimes measured in days.
Catch22
Major
Geeze that's a mess Terry. I guess there isn't any way to know for sure. I've posted a GB thread for it. Geo's profile has it as black, but I originally thought that was incorrect, but it may not be after all.
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Benevolens Magister
About to hit the hay, so I'll have a look tomorrow.(Sh** , is that the time already!!??).
It's not as complex as it seems at first Cory - the stripes are fairly straightforward, as are the roundels. Spinners should be black, but factory or M.U. replacement aircraft arrived in 'standard' day-fighter scheme prior to January '45, and after, so, with no time to re-paint, they often went into immediate service as is.
Again, the date period, location, and more importantly, the specific airframe, dictates what was what.
It's not as complex as it seems at first Cory - the stripes are fairly straightforward, as are the roundels. Spinners should be black, but factory or M.U. replacement aircraft arrived in 'standard' day-fighter scheme prior to January '45, and after, so, with no time to re-paint, they often went into immediate service as is.
Again, the date period, location, and more importantly, the specific airframe, dictates what was what.
A4K
Brigadier General
...and also on paint stocks.
Read an article on RAAF CAC Boomerang camouflage, and though various changes were implemented, old stocks of paint had to be used up first, resulting in a real mixed bag of schemes and markings!
Read an article on RAAF CAC Boomerang camouflage, and though various changes were implemented, old stocks of paint had to be used up first, resulting in a real mixed bag of schemes and markings!
B-17engineer
Colonel
Well done Harrison!
nice work Harrison, got the decals from my Academy Sabre going spare if you want them as i am doing mine in RAF colours ?
Lucky13
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Another one for a good penny on the 'bay'....
B-17engineer
Colonel
Anyone have a HS-123 windscreen for the ESCI kit? Or Decals? I can send something back your way if you have this piece(s)
I can get one for 4 bucks but it doesnt have decals or windscreen...hmmmm
I can get one for 4 bucks but it doesnt have decals or windscreen...hmmmm
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Benevolens Magister
Good stuff chaps. Can't help on the HS 123 Harrison, but the windscreen can probably be made from a piece of clear sheet, and decals from various sheets, not necessarily specific to the aircraft type.
B-17engineer
Colonel
Well I bought it!
Maybe the piece will turn up, if not I'm sure we'll manage.
Maybe the piece will turn up, if not I'm sure we'll manage.
Yep.. especially that the cockpit is the "open" type and the windshield consisted of 3 glasses only. Oh.. I have forgotten ... flat glasses.
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B-17engineer
Colonel
I think the Best Decision i ever made was selling the Hobbycraft Do-17 E and Do-17 F in 1/48 scale...bought both for 15 and sold them for 40 each. I was never going to build them. Had too much trouble with Do-17Z I'm working on!
fubar57
General
Geo
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Benevolens Magister
Well done H.
There's the Capitalist in you Harry!
A4K
Brigadier General
Bloody oath! You don't want to help me sell my artwork do ya mate? 