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The F-35 Joint Program Office has declined to confirm or deny a report that Joint Strike Fighters are being delivered to the U.S. military without radars due to chronic issues with a key upgrade program. However, other confirmed publicly available information does seem to very strongly point to that being the case. The new AN/APG-85 radar is a critical element of the larger Block 4 upgrade package for all variants of the F-35, which has been mired in cost growth and delays.

Defense Daily first reported that the U.S. military had received F-35s with no radars last week, citing an unnamed source. Deliveries of radar-less F-35s were said to have started in June 2025, with all A models for the U.S. Air Force arriving since then, at least, affected. The story does not elaborate on how the decision to accept jets in this configuration was arrived at. Foreign customers, all of whom are still currently acquiring jets fitted with the older AN/APG-81 radar, have reportedly not been impacted.

"F-35 Lightning II aircraft are being built to accommodate the F-35 advanced radar (APG-85) for [the] U.S. Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps," a spokesperson for the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) told TWZ today in response to our queries in light of the Defense Daily report. "Initial fielding for some F-35 aircraft is planned for Lot 17, which began delivery in 2025 and continues through September 2026."

"Due to program security reasons, we are protecting any additional information with enhanced security measures."

TWZ also reached out to Lockheed Martin, the prime contractor for the F-35, which deferred to the JPO. Northrop Grumman, which is developing the APG-85 radar, also declined to comment.




What the actual f&*k?
 
I'm reminded of the infamous "Blue Circle" radars in early Tornado F2s. Blue Circle was a well-known cement supplier in the UK, the gag being that many UK radars had "blue" in the name (e.g. Blue Vixen, Blue Parrot etc.).
 
An update:


The U.S. Air Force has now denied taking delivery of any F-35A Joint Strike Fighters from the latest Lot 17 production batch without radars installed. This comes a day after TWZ published a detailed piece examining a recent unconfirmed report that the U.S. military has been receiving radar-less F-35s since last June due to issues tied to the new AN/APG-85 radar. Earlier this week, the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) had declined to confirm or deny whether that was the case, citing "enhanced security measures."

"USAF F-35A lot 17 aircraft are delivering with APG-81 radars," an Air Force spokesperson told TWZ today in an unprompted statement. "The Air Force is working with the F-35 Lightning II Joint Program Office to deliver F-35s with APG-85 radars, and actual modernization plans, capabilities, and schedules remain classified to maintain program security."


 

A U.S. F-35 fighter jet made an emergency landing at a regional U.S. airbase in the Middle East after flying a combat mission over Iran, the U.S. military said Thursday.

CNN reported the plane, which cost up to $100 million, was believed to have been hit by Iran, citing two unnamed sources.

The plane landed "safely," the pilot is in "stable" condition and the incident is under investigation, U.S. Navy Capt. Tim Hawkins, a spokesperson for U.S. Central Command (Centcom), told The Hill in a statement.

If CNN's reporting is true, the development would be the first known time that Iran struck a U.S. fighter plane since the war broke out on Feb. 28.


 
A U.S. F-35 fighter jet made an emergency landing at a regional U.S. airbase in the Middle East after flying a combat mission over Iran, the U.S. military said Thursday.

CNN reported the plane, which cost up to $100 million, was believed to have been hit by Iran, citing two unnamed sources.

The plane landed "safely," the pilot is in "stable" condition and the incident is under investigation, U.S. Navy Capt. Tim Hawkins, a spokesperson for U.S. Central Command (Centcom), told The Hill in a statement.

If CNN's reporting is true, the development would be the first known time that Iran struck a U.S. fighter plane since the war broke out on Feb. 28.


Could quite possibly be just a flak hit
 
Ah ok. If within visual range, it is possible to get a hit. Remember that low observability (aka stealth), isn't like a Star Trek cloaking system. The aircraft aren't totally invisible. They are however harder to see until too close.
 
Personally it doesn't ring true. The aircraft is too stable in the frame and the 'hit' doesn't look like a survivable one.

Agreed, the hit depicted on the video looks fatal. The Pentagon confirms a damaged F-35, but the one in the video looks like it's got about 3.4 seconds left above ground level, because the engine would be toast and the airframe scrambled eggs.
 
An F-35 crashed in the Nevada Test and Training Range in Southern Nevada. The pilot ejected and is reportedly safe after sustaining only minor injuries.

According to KSNV News 3, "The U.S. military is searching for a pilot who had to eject from an aircraft over Southern Nevada on Tuesday, sources tell News 3… The aircraft reported trouble maneuvering around noon, according to sources." The outlet subsequently reported that the pilot was found in good condition.

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We have now gotten a statement from the 57th Wing at Nellis AFB (the range complex falls under the installation's command). We now know the F-35 that was lost was based out of Nellis. F-35s are major tenants of the base, for weapons tests and tactics development tasks and aggressor duties, and visiting F-35s frequent the base for training and exercises. The statement reads:

"An F-35 from Nellis AFB crashed north of Las Vegas today. The incident occurred approximately 25 miles northeast of Indian Springs, Nevada, within the controlled airspace and restricted federal property of the Nevada Test & Training Range.

Emergency responders are on-scene and there is no impact to populated areas. The pilot is safe and being treated for minor injuries. The safety of our personnel and the community remain our top priority.

We will provide additional information as it becomes available."


 
Here's what Wiki has to say about the South China Morning Post, source for the above:

Since the change of ownership in 2016, concerns have been raised about the paper's editorial independence and self-censorship. Critics, including The New York Times, Der Spiegel, and The Atlantic have alleged that the paper is on a mission to promote China's soft power abroad.[10][11] Academic studies have found that the newspaper has since shifted its editorial stance closer to a position of the Chinese government and portrays the country in a positive light.[12][13] A 2021 content analysis found SCMP to be a more effective conveyor of China's soft power than state media due to its tone and style.[14]


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