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Sunderland vs. eight Ju 88's
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net_sailor
Senior Airman
Shooting at enemy crew can't give fast effect, cause their stands are usually armoured. The humans' profile isn't a too big target in comparision aircraft size also (hard to hit and see the results).
My priorities would be other a vital parts: enginies and fuel tanks (big and soft targers). It could give fast visual effects (smoke, fire or fuel leaks) - very important for gunners also from psychological reasons.
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I don't disagree but if I'm a waste gunner in a B-17 along side a Mavis and I was watching the jap gunner walk tracers towards me.... I'm going to do anything i can to take him out.
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Pisis
2nd Lieutenant
Interesting stories. I've read a lot similar stories about Wellingtons flown by Czechoslovak pilots of No. 311 (Czechoslovak) Squadron RAF.
Soundbreaker Welch?
Tech Sergeant
Good story about the Mavis but rough luck for two B-17's.
Really unlucky for that crew of the Sunderland, and somehow weird that they again came across another pack of Ju 88's. Just couldn't take out the odds twice.
Really unlucky for that crew of the Sunderland, and somehow weird that they again came across another pack of Ju 88's. Just couldn't take out the odds twice.
Glider
Captain
I have heard of Arado 196's being used to intercept A/S patrol aircraft of the French coast, mainly Whitleys. Must be the slowest intercept / dogfight of the war.
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Like WW 1 with out the maneuverability..
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
While not WW II just found this little story in a Flight Journal magazine.
January 28, 1970 - James C. "Casey" Quinn, an aircraft/mission commander of an Air Force HC-130P from 39th AARS operating from Udorn, thailand was refueling HH-3E Jolly Green Giant helos when attacked by a MiG 21. Wheteher from gunfire from the Jolly Greens and the Herc or from the evasive action by Casey, the Mig 21, flown by Pham Dinh Tuan crashed into a mountainside and was killed. Will try to post the whole story if I can.
January 28, 1970 - James C. "Casey" Quinn, an aircraft/mission commander of an Air Force HC-130P from 39th AARS operating from Udorn, thailand was refueling HH-3E Jolly Green Giant helos when attacked by a MiG 21. Wheteher from gunfire from the Jolly Greens and the Herc or from the evasive action by Casey, the Mig 21, flown by Pham Dinh Tuan crashed into a mountainside and was killed. Will try to post the whole story if I can.
I don't have exact stories; but the RAF and USAAF sent everything and anything over the Med to intercept German transports. So, the stories while not being famous, would be numerous. The Ju 52s were the main targets and B-25s were known to rip them out of the sky with ease.
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DBII
Senior Master Sergeant
The B17s get all of the press. Can anyone direct me to accounts of the German bomb crews?
DBII
DBII
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
Cosimo, found a good Sunderland story.
April 8, 1940: Nine He 111s of 1(F)./122 took off from Hamburg to check the area east of the Shetlands. One of these aircraft sighted the British 2nd Cruiser Squadron together with 11 destroyers heading north at high speed to intercept the suspected breakout to the Atlantic of the 'Admiral Hipper' and her escorts. Another of the 1(F)./122 Heinkels encountered a Sunderland of RAF No. 204 Sqdrn and a running fight ensued which resulted in the Sunderland crashing into the sea west of Bergen. The Heinkel returned to Hamburg undamaged.
April 8, 1940: Nine He 111s of 1(F)./122 took off from Hamburg to check the area east of the Shetlands. One of these aircraft sighted the British 2nd Cruiser Squadron together with 11 destroyers heading north at high speed to intercept the suspected breakout to the Atlantic of the 'Admiral Hipper' and her escorts. Another of the 1(F)./122 Heinkels encountered a Sunderland of RAF No. 204 Sqdrn and a running fight ensued which resulted in the Sunderland crashing into the sea west of Bergen. The Heinkel returned to Hamburg undamaged.
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Cool...
The Sunderland sure would make a easier target. Maybe the tail gunner was knocked out early.
Short Sunderland flying boat (David Llewellyn James)
The Sunderland sure would make a easier target. Maybe the tail gunner was knocked out early.
Short Sunderland flying boat (David Llewellyn James)
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Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
kinda like hitting the broadside of a barn! Just picture a Heinkel and that battling at 2000 feet.
Glider
Captain
I admit that I have 617 bombing Woippy on the 15th March and Clermont Ferrand on the 16th March.
