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The Ta-152 had a low altitude version with the DB603 engine, shorter wings, and MW boost for low/medium altitude air superiority and ground attack; this sounds much like the Hawker Tempest to me, but with a slightly weaker, though less complex engine. Is this about right or were there key differences I'm missing? How would it have held up against the Tempest?
The Ta-152 was (mostly) a high altitude Fighter, not sure how that compare with the Tempest. The german tempest should be the Me-309 but that plane never made it.
Supposing the war went on long enough for the Ta-152C to be deployed, it would come up against not only the Tempest V, but also the slightly more capable Tempest II.
The Mk II was found to be 10-20 mph faster than the Mk V below 20,000 ft, 350-1000 ft/min better in climb through the altitude range, slightly better in a zoom climb, faster to accelerate, better in the rolling plane, identical in a dive and only slightly worse in turning circles.
Give Germany six more months and many Jagdgeschwader will have converted to He-162, which will have most of the early technical problems fixed.
How many He162 lost JG1 by accidents, just curious?The few He 162s that were sort of operational towards the end of the war were mostly falling out of the sky with no help from allied air forces at all.
How many He162 lost JG1 by accidents, just curious?
cimmex
First I don't believe there was a snowball's chance in hell of the technical problems on the He 162 being fixed within six months given the state of German jet engines and lack of materiel. The few He 162s that were sort of operational towards the end of the war were mostly falling out of the sky with no help from allied air forces at all.
More importantly how is the endurance, at most thirty minutes, going to be improved?
Finally, who is going to fly significant numbers of He 162s, or any other aircraft, jet or piston engine, for that matter?
It's a non-starter and a red herring both in the context of the war and this thread. "an entirely new air war", I think not. The air war was already lost by the Germans.
Cheers
Steve
Question guys,
A bit above Milosh said the Tempest made 240 claims with 79 Bf 109's and 115 Fw 190's. For some reason, and I did not write down the source, I have 266.5 claims by the Tempest in 17 months of action with 1,702 Tempests built.
Does anyone have a good list of Tempest claims, missions, action missions, etc?
Question guys,
A bit above Milosh said the Tempest made 240 claims with 79 Bf 109's and 115 Fw 190's. For some reason, and I did not write down the source, I have 266.5 claims by the Tempest in 17 months of action with 1,702 Tempests built.
Does anyone have a good list of Tempest claims, missions, action missions, etc?
The Ta 152 was easily a more practical option than the the He 162, and would have made a far superior combat plane. The Ta 152 was far from its' potential, while the Heinkel simply did not even have one.Problem is you cannot magically make jets disappear. Give Germany six more months and many Jagdgeschwader will have converted to He-162, which will have most of the early technical problems fixed. It will be an entirely new air war with USA and Britain rushing their own jets into service before technical glitches are fixed as they have no choice.