The Basket
Senior Master Sergeant
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- Jun 27, 2007
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Sharkey got 3 kills. Not 5 not an ace.
Just coz a guy say something dont mean it right.
No reason to hide losses. I thought Argentina had Daggers and not Mirage V.
No reason to hide losses.
HMS Minerva was part of the reinforcements that arrived on the 26th May and they were known as the Bristol group. In the official records she is down as being damaged during the conflict which would tie in with the narrative.
Nothing in particular, I have the utmost respect to pilots like Nigel Ward, but as I seem to unable to find any casualty inside the HMS Minerva...well that let me a bad taste in my mouth and some suspicions (I am pretty sure that any person hit with 30mm gunfire in the head cannot survive, sorry for my frankness)Can I ask which part of the narrative do you question?
You sure it was the 26th ? Because:
LiveLeak.com - Shot Down in the Falklands
Tomba s Pucara was shot down the 21th may, that is confirmed, if the ship arrived the 26th was not the Minerva who directed Lt Ward attacks against that pair of IA-58s. And if it was you data is incorrect.
Nothing in particular, I have the utmost respect to pilots like Nigel Ward, but as I seem to unable to find any casualty inside the HMS Minerva...well that let me a bad taste in my mouth and some suspicions (I am pretty sure that any person hit with 30mm gunfire in the head cannot survive, sorry for my frankness)
Christina Aguilera? she could crush walnuts with those thighs...
Thirty years ago Roger Waters had this to say:
Breszhnev took Afghanistan and Begin took Beirut,
Galtieri took the Union Jack,
And Maggie, over lunch one day, took a cruiser with all hands,
apparently, to make him give it back...
... eating escargot with ketchup.
There is no doubt that she is down as a damaged vessel in the records so someting hit her, however they also say that the Bristol group, didn't reach the Falklands until the 26th.
Apart from that I can only speculate, but if she was anywhere near a carrier then she may not have reached the Falklands before the 26th also shemay have been further out as a radar picket before that date, which would have some logic. The RN could and did use vessels in this manner as a hit on any of the transport vessels would have had dire consequences.
As for the man hit in the head, he may have made it. A shell would almost certainly have exploaded before penetrating that far into the ship so its probable that he was hit by debris of some type. The guy on the radio had just been hit, confusion would have understandable and head wounds bleed a lot. Jumping to the wrong conclusion can easily happen when in pain, shock whilst trying to concentrate on the radar and the guy in the air as a first priority.
I dont think anybody with 30mm hits in the skull, even fragments, could survive but that is not the point aniway. The point is wich was the ship with killed people by 30mm cannon inside, I would like to know to verify some data, that could denied or confirm some conpiracy theories so usual in many other forums. I am beggining to think mr Nigel Ward mistook the Minerva with other ship, Probably the HMS Brilliant, Argonaut or Antrim, frigates that were heavily attacked by gunfire.
CB, one does not claim that 155mm shell to the head is deathly. Rather one would claim that a 155mm shelling has resulted in head injury. I see no difference with 30mm. It was collateral damage. Either direct fragmentation or material debris.
"... those shots are fired from an helicopter in a stationary flight"
Apaches "hover" when they're firing their chain guns ..... ?
MM
Apaches "hover" when they're firing their chain guns ..... ?
MM
@CharlesBronson:
"... I would like to know to verify some data, that could denied or confirm some conspiracy theories so usual in many other forums."
Thankfully, it has been my experience that "conspiracy theories" don't last long on this Forum, CB.
MM
bowfin
That surviving Chinook of the Falklands could be said to be one of the most storied individual British aircraft EVER. I know, a pretty big boast, but it flew in the Falklands, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Three of its pilots won the Distinguished Flying Cross while flying it.
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