mikewint
Captain
Just wondering if there would be any interest in a thread on the new super whiz-bang Star Wars movie? Personally I'm a big fan of the Lucas-movies and whay-back-when stood in line for 4 hours to see IV A New Hope. So I had great expectations when Lucas finally gave it up. Needless to say the wanting is always better than the having. I personally find the following totally unforgivable when so much time, energy, and money was involved. SO...SPOILER ALERT stop now if you have not seen the movie. Here is my critique:
Luke destroys a Death Star; Lando destroys a bigger Death Star; Poe destroys the biggest Death Star. While we're on the topic, WHY would the First Order spend quadrillions of ???? on a concept that had failed twice before. The first two Death Stars, took the rebels a full scale invasion force and Luke's use of the force while for the larger and better protected Starkiller all that was needed was a janitor with no special skills, a few run-of-the-mill handheld explosives, a couple not very difficult X-wing blaster strikes and it helped that the Millennium Falcon was able to "fly low."
Anakin kills (the Jedi's) Younglings; Kylo Ren kills (Luke's) Younglings.
Leia, Luke, Han, and Chewie end up in a trash compactor; Captain Phasma ends up in a trash compacter.
Poe and Finn steal a ship they're not supposed to steal from a hanger (did you notice that the ship was "tied-down"?? in an enclosed building??); a young Anakin steals a ship he's not supposed to steal from a hanger.
Luke watches Obi-Wan die; Rey watches Han Solo die. In fact, both she and Finn just stand there and watch not even thinking to fire a single blaster bolt
The Emperor and Snoke both appear (at first) exclusively via holograms.
The Millennium Falcon negotiates tight spaces at top speeds in every film.
There's a den of iniquity on Tatooine, and a visually identical one on Takodana (Maz Kanata's home).
Rey climbs dangerously on the interior of a Death Star, as did Luke.
Han gets shown up (as to military and technical smarts) first by Leia, then many years later by Rey.
Obi-Wan disappears where no one can find him but Luke, then Luke disappears where no one can find him but Rey.
Kylo Ren and Darth Vader use the Force for an interrogation.
The First Order's General Hux is the same Nazi-with-a-British-accent as every Empire officer or petty official before him.
Rey falls in love (we think) with a young scamp, as did Padme.
The Resistance headquarters seems to be the same movie set as the Rebel headquarters from decades earlier.
Poe is a crack shot, like Luke.
BB-8 is the new R2D2.
Kylo Ren is related to Han, just as Darth Vader was related to Luke.
Kylo Ren has such a Force-enabled sense of where his father is in the Galaxy that when his father lands on Starkiller Base, Ren immediately exclaims to himself, "Solo!" Yet a few minutes later, when Ren is just twenty feet from Solo, he can't detect him -- and actually starts searching for him in the wrong direction.
Rey, the orphan, lives on a desert planet the twin of Tatooine. She becomes a master using the Force in just a few hours. A feat that took Luke years. She's never been in a battle but is a master with a staff. Amazingly she speaks Wookie which no one has ever done and no one is surprised, also how did she get that X-wing pilot helmet, and why doesn't she sell it for food? And why does Teedo just give Rey BB-8 after capturing the droid, given that as an experienced trader Teedo would already know that BB-8 is worth 100 times more than any random pile of junk either he or Rey could ever offer Plutt?
For more than 12 years Han looses track of his most prized possession the Millennium Falcon
Kylo Ren is the head of the Knights of Ren but somehow there are no other Knights in the entire movie
Why are all stormtroopers human, or at least humanoid? Nd why in the world do they use giant tasers and WWII style flamethrowers (couldn't be for the toy market could it?)
Luke destroys a Death Star; Lando destroys a bigger Death Star; Poe destroys the biggest Death Star. While we're on the topic, WHY would the First Order spend quadrillions of ???? on a concept that had failed twice before. The first two Death Stars, took the rebels a full scale invasion force and Luke's use of the force while for the larger and better protected Starkiller all that was needed was a janitor with no special skills, a few run-of-the-mill handheld explosives, a couple not very difficult X-wing blaster strikes and it helped that the Millennium Falcon was able to "fly low."
Anakin kills (the Jedi's) Younglings; Kylo Ren kills (Luke's) Younglings.
Leia, Luke, Han, and Chewie end up in a trash compactor; Captain Phasma ends up in a trash compacter.
Poe and Finn steal a ship they're not supposed to steal from a hanger (did you notice that the ship was "tied-down"?? in an enclosed building??); a young Anakin steals a ship he's not supposed to steal from a hanger.
Luke watches Obi-Wan die; Rey watches Han Solo die. In fact, both she and Finn just stand there and watch not even thinking to fire a single blaster bolt
The Emperor and Snoke both appear (at first) exclusively via holograms.
The Millennium Falcon negotiates tight spaces at top speeds in every film.
There's a den of iniquity on Tatooine, and a visually identical one on Takodana (Maz Kanata's home).
Rey climbs dangerously on the interior of a Death Star, as did Luke.
Han gets shown up (as to military and technical smarts) first by Leia, then many years later by Rey.
Obi-Wan disappears where no one can find him but Luke, then Luke disappears where no one can find him but Rey.
Kylo Ren and Darth Vader use the Force for an interrogation.
The First Order's General Hux is the same Nazi-with-a-British-accent as every Empire officer or petty official before him.
Rey falls in love (we think) with a young scamp, as did Padme.
The Resistance headquarters seems to be the same movie set as the Rebel headquarters from decades earlier.
Poe is a crack shot, like Luke.
BB-8 is the new R2D2.
Kylo Ren is related to Han, just as Darth Vader was related to Luke.
Kylo Ren has such a Force-enabled sense of where his father is in the Galaxy that when his father lands on Starkiller Base, Ren immediately exclaims to himself, "Solo!" Yet a few minutes later, when Ren is just twenty feet from Solo, he can't detect him -- and actually starts searching for him in the wrong direction.
Rey, the orphan, lives on a desert planet the twin of Tatooine. She becomes a master using the Force in just a few hours. A feat that took Luke years. She's never been in a battle but is a master with a staff. Amazingly she speaks Wookie which no one has ever done and no one is surprised, also how did she get that X-wing pilot helmet, and why doesn't she sell it for food? And why does Teedo just give Rey BB-8 after capturing the droid, given that as an experienced trader Teedo would already know that BB-8 is worth 100 times more than any random pile of junk either he or Rey could ever offer Plutt?
For more than 12 years Han looses track of his most prized possession the Millennium Falcon
Kylo Ren is the head of the Knights of Ren but somehow there are no other Knights in the entire movie
Why are all stormtroopers human, or at least humanoid? Nd why in the world do they use giant tasers and WWII style flamethrowers (couldn't be for the toy market could it?)
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