I agree with that Alder.DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
The Greatest Fighter Jet of All Time. (1 Viewer)
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I think there are a lot of political reasons behind it replacement with the F-18E.
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
Crap, i forgot the one i voted for. And in my opinion, i hope they dont retire the F-18E. Its a great Carrier Aircraft!
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102first_hussars
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I like your siggy, its really cool but its a bit big, you might want to scale it down a bit.
I like your siggy, its really cool but its a bit big, you might want to scale it down a bit.
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
I agree.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
I'd still say the greatest fighter jet would be the F4 Phantom. Proven in two big air wars (and two smaller ones), used in multiple roles, used by the USN/USAF and many other countries, and served abley for nearly 4 decades.
In nod to the Lightning, I'd say it was "best in show" for the point defense role.
In nod to the Lightning, I'd say it was "best in show" for the point defense role.
the lancaster kicks ass
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what's this? giving your approval to a non-american aircraft?
P38 Pilot said:
Why would they replace the F-18E? It just came out. The F-18E is replacing the F-14.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
the lancaster kicks ass said:
Yes. It was proven to be superior to the F106 as an interceptor, so I give credit due where credit is due.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Dont confuse him
I dont think I have to do that, he does that himself.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
The greatest interceptor I will admit.
Greatest jet fighter? No. It was too highly specialized for its role.
Greatest jet fighter? No. It was too highly specialized for its role.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I agree.... But I disagree with the F-4 being better than the F-15...
Agreed there also the F-15 beats out the F-4 in just about every catagory.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
Some of the reasons I rated the F4 higher was it was also a naval fighter, and it served in two high intensity airwars.
Of course it was inferior in performance.
Of course it was inferior in performance.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I appreciate the reasons u listed sys, as well as my own reasoning behind the Phantom... Both are at the top of MY list, both are proven, and both have excellent combat records....
But the Eagle stands on top...
But the Eagle stands on top...
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
The F-15 is unsurpassed in it's kill ratio..
The F-4's record is impressive, but there have been many lost in air-to-air combat, although its versatility is apparent.
The F-86 has to be in there - a second generation Jet fighter that was still being used as late as 1995 (I think Honduras was the last nation to use the F-86 in combat) that not only performed well in Korea (I'm talking a 4 to 1 kill ratio that was probably more realistic) served with dozens of other countries and even took on and bested Mig-21s!
Between the 3 of them they are definitely the largest distributor of used Mig parts...
The F-4's record is impressive, but there have been many lost in air-to-air combat, although its versatility is apparent.
The F-86 has to be in there - a second generation Jet fighter that was still being used as late as 1995 (I think Honduras was the last nation to use the F-86 in combat) that not only performed well in Korea (I'm talking a 4 to 1 kill ratio that was probably more realistic) served with dozens of other countries and even took on and bested Mig-21s!
Between the 3 of them they are definitely the largest distributor of used Mig parts...
syscom3
Pacific Historian
The F15 never flew in a combat enviornment like NVN or the Yom Kipur war.
I think it would be more realistic to say best jet from 1945 through 1955, 1956 through 1975 and 1975 to the present.
I think it would be more realistic to say best jet from 1945 through 1955, 1956 through 1975 and 1975 to the present.
I agree on how this should be broken down
On the F-4 and the F-15 though you can not say the F-4 is better than the F-15 because of its combat record. The F-15 is better than the F-4 handsdown, that is like saying the Spitfire is better than the F-86.
On the F-4 and the F-15 though you can not say the F-4 is better than the F-15 because of its combat record. The F-15 is better than the F-4 handsdown, that is like saying the Spitfire is better than the F-86.
