The Most advanced aircraft...

[Dark Matter]

Opinions and facts please...

I'd say the F-35B

 

[Civettone]

I would think the F-22 would be the obvious choice ...


Kris

 

[Gnomey]

This obviously....

 

[Civettone]

I just mean that the F-35 has always been presented as the cheap solution for those who couldn't afford the F-22. Completely like the F-16 was for the F-15.


Kris

 

[Dark Matter]

The F-22 cant even fly in rain or dust...

 

[FLYBOYJ]

I just mean that the F-35 has always been presented as the cheap solution for those who couldn't afford the F-22. Completely like the F-16 was for the F-15.


Kris

Not quite Kris - the F-35 was designed with a lot more multi role missions in mind. Although supporters of the F-22 will try to claim that it too has multi role capability, its mission roots go back to the mid/ late 1980s when we were still fighting the cold war. Although the F-22 is a more capable air to air fighter, the F-35 will give more bang for the buck in the long run.

The F-16 did offer a cheaper alternative than the F-15 but in reality had a whole different mission as it still does today.

The F-22 cant even fly in rain or dust...

Shut up!

 

[Lucky13]

Come again!?

 

[evangilder]

The F-22 cant even fly in rain or dust...

I would like to see your source for that statement. If you are going to make a claim like that, you better be prepared to back that up with some hard facts.

 

[Dark Matter]

My source...

High-Priced F-22 Fighter Has Major Shortcomings - washingtonpost.com

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The F-22 cant even fly in rain or dust...

No where in there does it say it can not fly in rain or dust. It says that there it is vulnerable to rain, but it does not describe what the problem is. Therefore unless you are working on the aircraft you can not speculate that it can not fly in the rain. Again no where in the article does it say that the aircraft can not fly in rain. Vulnerabilities can mean anything.

 

[Dark Matter]

See the link above your post...

 

[Waynos]

The F-22's LO properties are compromised by certain atmospheric conditions, like rain, but it comes nowhere near to stopping it form flying, thats just bollocks.

The most advanced aircraft yet produced is probably a tie between the F-22 and the Boeing 787 (if they ever get THAT to fly)

You should not rely on newspapers for technical insight.

 

[Dark Matter]

The rain disrupts the skin of the plane.

Try this place...

IGN Boards - Can an F-22 fly in the rain?

 

[Dark Matter]

And this place...

http://www.f-16.net/news_article3622.html

Wait....

I just linked the wrong thing....

Ops.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The rain disrupts the skin of the plane.

Try this place...

IGN Boards - Can an F-22 fly in the rain?

Go back and read the whole thing, including your link to the Washington Post. Rain and other atmospheric conditions can affect the stealth capability of the F-22. This is not limited to the F-22 but all stealth aircraft. The F-22 can fly in the rain...

You have to read everything to understand something, not just the first few lines...

 

[diddyriddick]

Good points all. Moreover, the kind of problems that the Post article is talking about seem to be normal growing pains which every revolutionary design has. Hell, being as close to Lejeune as we are here, you'd think the Osprey was the worst design in history, but the Corps doesn't seem to think so.

 

[evangilder]

Indeed. You gotta do better than that, Dark Matter. Nothing in anything you have posted states that the F-22 cannot fly in the rain. Besides, some of us have actually seen the F-22 fly IN THE RAIN! Some of us have actually seen the F-22 fly at EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE. Since you obviously haven't been to Edwards AFB, it is quite dusty up there because it is in an area that is called 'the desert'. The desert is full of sand and winds.

You can post all the links you want, but that is flat out bovine fecal matter. You need to know what the hell you are talking about before you post that kind of ridiculous nonsense.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Dark Matter -

SHUT UP!

 

[Dark Matter]

Do you all hate me becuase i'm 13 or what!?

 

[diddyriddick]

Do you all hate me becuase i'm 13 or what!?

In a word, no. But you need to think about what you are posting, DM. When you are wrong, admit it rather than trying to force your round peg into a square hole.