The Pacific - Finally

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Gloucester County vets to see their story - NJ.com

Gloucester County vets to see their story
Wednesday, March 10, 2010
By DJ McAneny
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A special group of veterans on Thursday will be given the respect of viewing a tribute to their lives through the eyes of some of America's best storytellers four days before that vision debuts to the rest of the world.

The Honor Flight program from Monroe Township will be transporting 250 World War II veterans who served in the Pacific theater to Washington, D.C., for a special screening of the new HBO series, "The Pacific." The story follows three soldiers in the Marine Corps from the initial assault on Guadalcanal through their return home. It was executive produced by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg.

"HBO is honored to take part in bringing some of our nation's heroic veterans to visit the World War II Memorial," said Zach Enterlin, vice president of advertising and promotions, HBO. "While 'The Pacific' is centered on the stories of only a handful of Marines, it reminds us of the sacrifices made by so many men and women in service to our country. It is critically important to acknowledge their contributions and give them our eternal thanks."

Honor Flight was started in May 2005, when physician's assistant and retired Air Force Captain Earl Morse wanted to honor the veterans he'd been caring for over 27 years by flying them to the then-newly completed World War II Memorial in the nation's capital. Many veterans couldn't manage the trip to D.C. to see the memorial themselves because of financial or physical limitations. Morse and five other pilots decided to start flying vets and accompanying guardians out at no cost to the visitors to see in person the site dedicated to their bravery.

A local chapter of the Honor Flight program was started in South Jersey in 2008 and they've made two annual trips since then.

"Since America felt it was important to build a memorial to the service and the ultimate sacrifice of her veterans, the Honor Flight Network believes it's equally important that they actually get to visit and experience their memorial," said Earl Morse, president and co-founder of the Honor Flight Network. "After everything they endured and accomplished for all of us, getting them to their memorial is the least that we can do."

Eugene Vonnetti, of Turnersville, is one of the Pacific veterans who will be making the trip to D.C. with Honor Flight of South Jersey Chapter to participate in the special screening. He seemed excited for the opportunity at participating in this special occasion, though he was quick to remind that war should not be sensationalized and the story of soldiers who fought for their country deserves to carefully be told.

"A few weeks back at an (Honor Flight) collection drive," said Vonnetti, "They started asking around if we had been in the Pacific, if we'd be interested in making this trip. They came up to us, thanked us. It was an honor, really. From the small preview (of The Pacific) I've seen so far, it's something to see, it really makes you think. War is war. It's not glamorous, but I think it's something everyone deserves to be made aware of. It is a fact of life.

"It's a matter of opinion," he said, "But I'm looking forward to it. Most guys in World War II, they've been through hell and back. Watching something like this Ð soldiers getting shot at, blown up, all very gory could get people to understand, to say, My God, is this what really happened?'"

The overall feeling among the vets is one of appreciation. They're thankful HBO respected them so much they were granted a special screening. They want their story to be told and they want it told accurately. Frank Scahill, former VFW Post 1616 Commander and co-founder of the Honor Flight of South Jersey Chapter, was excited for his brothers in arms and supportive of the mini-series' endeavor.

"This is an outstanding gesture HBO made," he said. "It's the kind of respect World War II vets deserve. It looks like it will be very emotional. It will bring up a lot of memories for these guys some good, and unfortunately, some bad. But the realism is just meant to show respect for the time these men served their country. HBO has done an awful lot of research, and I can't think of anyone else who could have handled it as well as this."
 
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Our illustrious cable moguls up here want an extra 18 bucks a month to give me HBO HD. To get it, I have to bundle it with 4 other channels I don't want.

A$$holes. I'll wait for the Blue Ray.
 
Our illustrious cable moguls up here want an extra 18 bucks a month to give me HBO HD. To get it, I have to bundle it with 4 other channels I don't want.

A$$holes. I'll wait for the Blue Ray.

Lucky here ... $5.00 a month for the first 6 months... I'll cancel after that!

I can set up a camera focused on my TV to stream to ya'all..... but thats illegal and I'd never do it!

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WWII vets view series in D.C., get welcome in Williamstown - NJ.com

(This is my alma mater!!)

WWII vets view series in D.C., get welcome in Williamstown
Saturday, March 13, 2010
By DJ McAneny
[email protected]
Pacific Theater veterans returning from a special Washington, D.C. screening of a new HBO mini-series based on their valor received a heroic "Welcome Home" at Williamstown High School on Friday afternoon.

More than 50 Honor Flight veterans entered the main concourse at the high school to an emotional explosion of applause accompanied by both a choir and band.

"Everything went better than anyone could have planned," said Superintendent Chuck Earling. "Honor Flight is an incredible program and we are proud to be hosting them today. Something like this, filled with so much love, touches everyone, especially our kids. It's very patriotic and the veterans truly appreciate it Ð they're in awe."

Upon arrival, the veterans were escorted from their tour bus by the school's Air Force Junior ROTC members to the school cafeteria where a luncheon was provided. Along the walk to the cafeteria was hallway after hallway lined with flag-toting, cheering students.

Many of these hardened veterans couldn't contain their tears.

"We wanted to make sure they had a big reception," said Earling. "How can you ever thank the greatest generation that ever lived more than what these kids are doing here?"

"It's all wonderful," said Honor Flight veteran Milton Gore. "Outstanding. This whole trip was just extraordinary. The premiere was unbelievable, and this is just beautiful. They made an old Marine cry."

Marsha Brumberg, an Honor Flight guardian who accompanied the group to D.C., mentioned that one of the highlights of the evening was meeting special guests who greeted the veterans, including executive producers of "The Pacific," Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielberg. She explained HBO's attempts to be sensitive to the psyche of the Honor Flight veterans, but in the end they needn't have been concerned.

"The trip was terrific," Brumberg said. "There were two screens and the veterans had the choice between watching "The Pacific" premiere and "Casablanca," because I guess HBO thought maybe some of the veterans wouldn't want to watch the miniseries. Well, no one went to Casablanca. They all wanted to see the film and, when it was over, they all applauded. It was very well done."

Brumberg was sitting at a table with Pearl Harbor survivor and veteran Michael Florio. His eyes were still red from the trip in.

"The trip was wonderful," he said. "Honor Flight is wonderful and this school is wonderful. This is more than I could have ever expected. I very much enjoyed the whole trip. It's overwhelming."

Assistant Principle Caroline Yoder was pleased with the hard work her students put out to give these men a deserved welcome home and proud of what their efforts accomplished.

""It was the most touching thing," said Yoder. "We just wanted to have it nicely done when they got back. It was a great way to teach the kids about patriotism and respect for their country. I'm so proud of everyone here today. This is the positive stuff that I love."
 
First episode seemed uneven and truncated to me. I think it needed to be 20 minutes longer to better round out some of the characters and convey the passage of time.

some great moments though... impressive use of CG..

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I agree that it could have been a little longer (think it was only about 50 minutes), but other than that I thought it was great.

Attention to detail as expected.....

Springfield '03s, helmets w/o camouflage covers, yellow grenades, M1928A1 Thompson with drum magazines, etc.

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hey finally they make this when did band of brothers come out?
because i am really impressed by the way it came out on the ads.
 
Yeah attention to detail was good. Springfields, rust on the landing craft, 30 cal tripod, shooting and scooting. I didn't know about yellow grenades. Why yellow?



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They were yellow prior to 1943 to denote live HE (as opposed to training grenades). When the OD color was adopted, the only yellow was a band at the top.

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I was impressed enough to be hopeful for what is to come....

The "drama" was a little uneven, but I thought that their was a decent enough balance of "character study" "historic back ground" " attention to detail" " action". Not an easy task...

I know what I will be watching every Sunday...

p.s. The "scuttle butt" is that the first two episodes are the "slowest"...its suppose to pick up as it goes along.
 
I enjoyed it... it was good. I felt that the battle seemed just thrown in. ...

I think they should have played on it's significance a little more and saved it for the second episode.

Maybe show some smaller recon teams on patrol looking for the Jap positions before the battle and maybe getting captured.




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I enjoyed it... it was good. I felt that the battle seemed just thrown in. ...

I think they should have played on it's significance a little more and saved it for the second episode.

Maybe show some smaller recon teams on patrol looking for the Jap positions before the battle and maybe getting captured.




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Actually, one of the things I liked was that everything is unfolding for us, just like it was for them. They didnt really know that much, at this stage of the war. I felt that one of the points they where trying to make (last night) was "how green" they all where...they didnt know what to expect, and they didnt know what was going to happen (like we do now). The drama made a point of showing how their expectations didnt match their experience...
 
p.s. The "scuttle butt" is that the first two episodes are the "slowest"...its suppose to pick up as it goes along.

That makes sense. The intensity of the Pacific war did pick up as the US moved closer and closer to the home islands of Japan.

Iwo Jima and Okinawa should be off the charts!

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Actually, one of the things I liked was that everything is unfolding for us, just like it was for them. They didnt really know that much, at this stage of the war. I felt that one of the points they where trying to make (last night) was "how green" they all where...they didnt know what to expect, and they didnt know what was going to happen (like we do now). The drama made a point of showing how their expectations didnt match their experience...

For the most part i agree... i like the way the Japanese were a mystery.. their first glimpse was coming across the bivouac. It did a good job of emulating the fog of war.

but at the same ... I found myself frustrated at the battalion walking around with no recon. I would have liked to see a small team on patrol just as a transition to the battle.
also Alligator Creek was a significant battle IMO .. the greatest land defeat of the Japanese at that time.

would have been nice to provide some context like in BoB when they reveal the importance of destroying the gun emplacements on D Day.

Its going to be a great series...
 
Overall, I am happy with it. I had read on the forum that the first two were the weakest episodes, and not to compare it to BoB because the story is told differently. Think Hanks and Spielberg need to do a story regarding air combat next. Has not been a great air combat story in a long time.
 

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