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Just out of principle, Truman and Churchill should have ordered the occupation of Portugal for "de-nazification".
"I still dont believe it to be the great evil as so many people from the era make it out to be"
That speaks volumes about you.
Absolutely true, and fully agreed. All countries did things they rather not remember during the war.We all know Germany had done some cruel acts in the war , but no single country is innocent , no single man can say they dont have blood stained hands .
Here I disagree. Maybe it's different when your family was on the recieving end of NAZI policy. The fact that some people had a marvalous time with the Hitler-jugend don't make it a good organisation as many Jews learned. The SA was probably also a nice drinking-club, but here again, most Jews, gypsies, and other Europeans will disagree.I really dont understand why . As much as so many people on this forum hate the Nazi and there regime I still dont believe it to be the great evil as so many people from the era make it out to be .
Why then were there so many people who did see it totally the other way? It's quite a lame excuse for the killing of 6 million women and children from a special population. You cannot prove me that Hitler would do it any other way if he had the same hindsight as we have today. You'll have to do better than that.Hitlers decisions were based upon what he had seen in his life and what he believed was right and what was wrong . You and me both have the benefit of hindsight and can see all his mistakes . He did not have this luxury , just whatever he could see around him . How do you know in 65 years time people will look back at the US and say they were evil for invading Iraq and Afghanistan ? Or the US was evil for trading with China , a communist country it fought against in Korea 50 odd years ago ? You just dont know , all you know is that people make decision based upon the information they have at the time and do what they believe is right .
Here I disagree. Maybe it's different when your family was on the recieving end of NAZI policy. The fact that some people had a marvalous time with the Hitler-jugend don't make it a good organisation as many Jews learned. The SA was probably also a nice drinking-club, but here again, most Jews, gypsies, and other Europeans will disagree.
I think you can say without bias that NAZI-rule was evil, just like Stalinism and colonialism was. They had illogical, ideals, based on wrong assumptions, for which millions payed with their lives. The fact that there were others that were as evil doesn't take away the fact that NAZISM was evil.
From my point of view, I cannot believe there are still people claiming that NAZISM was NOT evil, even after learning all the facts.
Why then were there so many people who did see it totally the other way? It's quite a lame excuse for the killing of 6 million women and children from a special population. You cannot prove me that Hitler would do it any other way if he had the same hindsight as we have today. You'll have to do better than that.
Bug-Racer, first I want to say that your comments are totally outside the scope and purpose of this thread.
Second, this is a non-political forum in that we do not hold political discussions. But everyone is welcome to an opinion.
Third, we will not allow ANY disparaging of someone's country, any country. Political regimes are different from the people.
Fourth, the world was aware of what Hitler was doing even during the war, they just didn't realize the scope of it.
And last there is no way you can compare or accept the attrocities of the National Socialists under Hitler with any other political regime during that time period. It was an evil regime, plain and simple and I don't see any negative in stating that fact. There is far too much liberal revisionist mindset when it comes to history that distorts the facts and denies the truth.
Other than Syscom posting anything else in HIS thread, I won't allow any more discussion from anyone here about it. This is not the thread for it.
I think the point you seem to miss is that Syscom was commenting on Portugal's response to Hitler's demise. Not Germany's.
Lets leave it at that.