Tom Cruise involved in John Woo's "Flying Tiger's" movie...maybe
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Messy1
Master Sergeant
I am pissed just from his comment about the Flying Tigers "winning" the war. Go read your hitory Tom! Not taking anything away from the AVG, just thinking about all the other veterans who did their part too! He obviously is not a student of history. I envision a typcial Woo film, everything overdone with little concern about historical accuracy.
Great, another great WW2 story that could be turned into a another epic with the right man and director at the helm, another guy named Tom comes to mind! And a guy named Steven too! Cruise is mediocre at best. He's a tool! at least he finally got the hint no one wants to hear him preaching about his "religious" and political views!
Disappointed to read this.
Great, another great WW2 story that could be turned into a another epic with the right man and director at the helm, another guy named Tom comes to mind! And a guy named Steven too! Cruise is mediocre at best. He's a tool! at least he finally got the hint no one wants to hear him preaching about his "religious" and political views!
Disappointed to read this.
Thorlifter
Captain
Ok, I'm going to send this to John Woo.
Claire Chennault - Tom Hanks
"Tex" Hill - Tobey Maguire
Pappy Boyington - Joaquin Phoenix
FDR - John Voit
Charles Older - Jake Gyllenhaal
Other pilots - fill with up and coming young actors
Ok, maybe too much star power, but in the 50's - 70's, they made GREAT war epic movies with a good number of stars.
Claire Chennault - Tom Hanks
"Tex" Hill - Tobey Maguire
Pappy Boyington - Joaquin Phoenix
FDR - John Voit
Charles Older - Jake Gyllenhaal
Other pilots - fill with up and coming young actors
Ok, maybe too much star power, but in the 50's - 70's, they made GREAT war epic movies with a good number of stars.
Messy1
Master Sergeant
Agree Thor! Almost anyone but Cruise. And for Chennault? Cruise is short and evenly proportioned. Chennault I always thought was tall and skinny. You wouldn't pick Danny Devito to play Abraham Lincoln.
Colin1
Senior Master Sergeant
Robert Ryan (deceased)
would have made a very plausible Chennault. He did get close, playing the part of a USMC aviator in Flying Leathernecks.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
I wouldn't go see the movie period its IMHO an overblown story there are far better topics on the airwar to consider . Ploesti , the guys flying from Wake Island , the real story of the Cactus AF not the crap that was Baa Baa Blacksheep
Messy1
Master Sergeant
I would welcome any quality, accurate, realistic WW2 movie, no matter the topic.
Coors9
Senior Airman
Only way to pull this off is to use no name actors and make it about the movie and not the "TopGun's" of the world. So wanted to see the Spruce Goose with todays comp animation but "Leo" prevented that. What's next, Him playing "Sgt. Rock". Can't understand why that hasn't been made!!!!!!!! Or a "GI Combat" Movie. What the hell is wrong with this world!!!!
B-17engineer
Colonel
Tom Hanks is my all time favorite actor...
Forest Gump
Saving Private Ryan
you get the paint 8)
Forest Gump
Saving Private Ryan
you get the paint 8)
ToughOmbre
Senior Master Sergeant
How about Sean Penn in the title role in a remake of "Patton"? 
TO
TO
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proton45
Senior Airman
I actually think it was John Woo, who made the comment about the Tigers winning the war...He is a Chinese, who now lives in the USA, and I can see why this might be an interesting topic for him. The AVG was one of the few successful co-operational projects between the Chinese and the Americans, and Woo is a displaced Christian Chinese of Hong Kong. I'm sure that the story of the AVG is one he thinks is important, and maybe less known in "Red China".
Its unfortunate that John Woo's fabulously dramatic film style doesn't really sit well with contemporary "war buff's", who crave reality in a war film...because he apparently enjoys making "big budget war films". If you have ever seen any of his "Hong Kong era" crime story movies you would know what I mean...he makes an art of poetically filmed scenes of overblown ridiculous action...he is truly a master.
I'll bet that Mr Cruise wants to be a part of this story (unfortunately)...because he is a pilot and a war buff.
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proton45
Senior Airman
How about Sean Penn in the title role in a remake of "Patton"?
TO
It is really odd that so many "left wing" actors want to (in fact crave) these heroic WW2 roles...I hear that Mr Baldwin really, really wanted the role of Doolittle in "P.H."...its like they are looking for a legitimate outlet for the warrior that rests in all men (WW2 being the last good war_lol).
Messy1
Master Sergeant
I don't know Proton. To me, it is a injustice to all those who fought in WW2 if the movie is not portrayed as accurately as possible. I think there is a place for Woo's style, many like it. But not when you are retelling a story or period that changed the entire world. Now a fictional event in WW2? That would be fine IMO.
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proton45
Senior Airman
Oh, don't get me wrong...I agree with you, on the whole. I'm just saying that its "too bad", because I feel that John Woo's motivations are "pure". I don't think he is setting out to "just make a buck" or to "ruin the story"...I feel that he really admires the "Tigers".
Messy1
Master Sergeant
You could be right.
RabidAlien
1st Lieutenant
Get Hanks/Speilberg/Eastwood to act/direct this one, and I'll be first in line to see it.
Messy1
Master Sergeant
How about Sean Penn in the title role in a remake of "Patton"?
TO
I may have to boycott that one!
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proton45
Senior Airman
To some extent I think its an issue of culture...I believe the Chinese culture still enjoys telling "big tails of heroic giants", as apposed to making a "historic-drama" that attempts to record what these people probably experienced and felt. Its a different perspective on how to honor a hero...'they' believe in making them a "larger then life" character (as was the fashion here too, at one time), and we recognize the human/everyman aspect of their experiences. It may also be a matter of experience...by this i mean that the US Army viewed the average soldier as an "everyman" and the training was thus oriented.
Also, i would add that here in the "western world"...we view WW2 as a resent event that is slowly slipping into history. We watch as our own family's slip into the great unknown, and we seek some way of preserving their actions in life. To honor them by remembering what they went through as an "everyman" (by that I mean someone we can empathize with). We somehow view the telling of 'traditional' larger then life hero tails (like Homer) as a ridiculous convention that doesn't honor the 'real life' (humble) hero's we know...
Bottom line...what they went through in the war was heroic interesting enough, without having to 'jazz-up' the story. But then again we are history junkies...
Rant over (sorry)...
Messy1
Master Sergeant
Good post proton.
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