Unusual Aircraft
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GregP
Major
A sad end to a pretty plane, and loss of a good pilot.
I have actuially done a snap and a half while trying to do one, but I was also not trying to do it 20 feet off the ground in an airshow. If you're gonna' DO that, you better get it right.
One of our local airshow pilots. Rob Harrison (The Tumbling Bear) did a really entertaining airshow in a Zlinn Z-50. A few years back he was doing one and, at low altitude, slightly under-rotated a 3/4 snap into a hard turn, and pulled into the ground. Fortunately he wasn't killed and still flies. But it was a sober reminder of the unforgiving nature of low flying when bad things happen to good people.
I have actuially done a snap and a half while trying to do one, but I was also not trying to do it 20 feet off the ground in an airshow. If you're gonna' DO that, you better get it right.
One of our local airshow pilots. Rob Harrison (The Tumbling Bear) did a really entertaining airshow in a Zlinn Z-50. A few years back he was doing one and, at low altitude, slightly under-rotated a 3/4 snap into a hard turn, and pulled into the ground. Fortunately he wasn't killed and still flies. But it was a sober reminder of the unforgiving nature of low flying when bad things happen to good people.
What is it? I'm struggling to find any PT-22 parts visible, other than the undercarriage layout.
Don't worry - that's what I get for having the page open for so long and not updating before replying...
buffnut453
Captain
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vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I actually like the look of that one.
fubar57
General
Here we have the Junkers Ju 287: the fuselage from an He 177 A-5, the tail of a Ju 388, main undercarriage from a Ju 352, and nose wheels taken from crashed B-24 Liberators. Two were built.
MiTasol
2nd Lieutenant
Take away that fixed gear and it would look good in flight and probably perform quite well but as built it is truly fugly to say the least.
soulezoo
Senior Airman
That looks like a big old bug at the nose! Thank goodness no more than 2 were built!
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GregP
Major
Almost as ugly as Barracuda! This was a research airplane, built to investigate forward-swept wings. The war was going badly, and there was no reason to spend more than necessary to get it airborne. There was also no follow-up FSW aircraft, so they must not have been impressed.
The U.S.A. and USSR / Russia did some FSW aircraft many decades later, and carbon fiber gave stiffness that aluminum didn't have. I notice there are no FSW military aircraft in general use, and the civil Hansa Jet, though actually produced, never made it into large-scale production.
I've never heard bad fight reports, but the chairman of the board was probably comparing the looks to something like this:
As a civilian (non-pilot), which one looks like the one you want to arrive in? My bet is 99 out of 100 non-pilots would pick the Falcon 10.
The U.S.A. and USSR / Russia did some FSW aircraft many decades later, and carbon fiber gave stiffness that aluminum didn't have. I notice there are no FSW military aircraft in general use, and the civil Hansa Jet, though actually produced, never made it into large-scale production.
I've never heard bad fight reports, but the chairman of the board was probably comparing the looks to something like this:
As a civilian (non-pilot), which one looks like the one you want to arrive in? My bet is 99 out of 100 non-pilots would pick the Falcon 10.
soulezoo
Senior Airman
No disagreement from me!
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
Sorry, but this looks like someone trying to improve on an Arado AR234 and failing horribly.Here we have the Junkers Ju 287: the fuselage from an He 177 A-5, the tail of a Ju 388, main undercarriage from a Ju 352, and nose wheels taken from crashed B-24 Liberators. Two were built.
Did any actually fly?
Elvis
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
Thanks Graeme! 
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
Stephen Ransom has a nice little book in the Luftwaffe Classics on this one.
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Good shots!
To really appreciate the Barracuda, it is best viewed from the rear, on the ground
Or as the crews used to sing
"Any old ire, any old ire,
Any, any, any old iron
Down at Lee you get them free,
Built by Faireys for a crew of three
Bags of fun, no front gun,
An engine you can't rely on
You know what you can do
With your Barracuda too
Old iron, old iron."
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dogsbody
Airman 1st Class
Looks like some form of aeronautic origami.
Chris
Chris
Old Wizard
2nd Lieutenant
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GregP
Major
Now that MUST have been designed by a committee, and none of the committees were talking with the others.
To really appreciate the Barracuda, it is best viewed from the rear, on the ground
Or as the crews used to sing
"Any old ire, any old ire,
Any, any, any old iron
Down at Lee you get them free,
Built by Faireys for a crew of three
Bags of fun, no front gun,
An engine you can't rely on
You know what you can do
With your Barracuda too
Old iron, old iron."
