Who's the daddy?

[Colin1]

Colonial CF-SF-12 Viper :Name: Incom T-65 X-Wing
Superiority Fighter and Interceptor :Class: Superiority Fighter and Escort
1 :Crew: 1 (+1 R2 unit - astromech)
29.71ft (9.05 metres) :Length: 41ft (12.5 metres)
13.2ft (4.02 metres) :Height: 8ft (2.48 metres)
19.5ft (5.95 metres) :Wingspan: 38ft (11.5 metres)
14.2 tons (12,849Kgs) :Weight (unloaded): 15 tons (13,600Kgs)
Reinforced composite armour mesh hull :Construction: Titanium alloy hull
3 x turbo thrust engines :Engines: 4 x fusial thrust engines
Not applicable :Hyperdrive Rating: Class 1
40% of speed of light :Maximum Speed (Space): 40% of speed of light; 60 light years per hour (hyperdrive only)
Mach 8 (+escape velocity Mach 32.6) :Maximum Speed (Atmosphere): Mach 7.5 (+escape velocity Mach 32.6)
11.25g :Maximum acceleration: 9.0g
312 hours :Endurance (non-combat): 360 hours
Not applicable :Shielding: Novaldex 04-Z onboard generator
3 x kinetic energy cannons; 1 x ventral missile launcher (8 capacity) :Armament: 4 x laser energy cannons; 2 x ventral proton torpedo launchers (6 capacity). No weapons capability during hyperdrive jump.
4,000ft (1,200m) atmosphere; 32,000ft (9,200m) space :Weapons range (cannons): 4,000ft (1,200m) atmosphere; 32,000ft (9,200m) space
8,000 miles (12,875Km) atmosphere; 4,000,000 miles (6,437,376Km) space :Weapons range (torpedoes/missiles): 3,400 miles (5,740Km) atmosphere; 1,800,000 miles (2,897,000Km) space
13 days :Crew consumables: 21 days

 

[lesofprimus]

The X-Wing has got it all over the Viper... Having a Hyperdrive alone is the deciding factor, let alone all the other things in its favor.......

 

[Colin1]

The X-Wing has got it all over the Viper... Having a Hyperdrive alone is the deciding factor, let alone all the other things in its favor.......

Yep
the Viper's toast, the X-Wing can buzz in and out of the fight as he pleases, not that he'd want to buzz out - kinetic energy weapons vs shields?

C'mon the rest of you - don't pretend you never wondered

 

[Von Frag]

Heh I remember the Air Force was thinking about calling the F-16 the Viper until Battlestar Galactica came out.

 

[gumbyk]

Gotta agree,
Although the viper would have it in the maneuverability stakes, its kinda the space equivalent of the Zero.

 

[vikingBerserker]

Please forgive me Col Deering (DEEP SIGH)

X-Wing

 

[Vassili Zaitzev]

I only voted for the Viper because it's one of my favorite spacecraft. Gotta agree with the rest though, the X-wing outclasses the Viper in every category, except for manuverability.

 

[Njaco]

I voted for the Romulan Battle Cruiser. Can't hit what you can't see!

 

[BombTaxi]

It's clearly the X-Wing folks. Although if you threw a Starfury into the mix I'm sure both of our contenders would be toast...

 

[vikingBerserker]

Dammit, I was thinking of Buck Roger's Starfighter instead of Battlestar Galactica

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I still vote of Col Deering

 

[Freebird]

Dammit, I was thinking of Buck Roger's Starfighter instead of Battlestar Galactica
I still vote of Col Deering

That's because you were thinking with the wrong head.

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[GrauGeist]

I voted for the Viper...I think in the right hands, it could deliver a serious dose of whupass. Plus I liked Battlestar Galactica (the series) more than Star Wars (original movie) when I was a kid.

Plus, if the poll included a choice between the Imperial Tai-fighter and the Cylon Raider, I'd be going with the Raider!

Wasn't there a study by Caltech years ago that pitted the Cylon Base-star against the Imperial Deathstar? If I remember right, the Cylon's ship took out the Imperial ship because of it's firepower...that and because of it's higher mobility, it was able to keep away from the Deathstar's main weapon...

 

[Marcel]

Well, I don't know: Are they both going to stall at the same time in a turn? Independent of which stalls first (hopefully inboard), will the actual stall break point be the same for high G turning flight as it proved in level flight? The 4 engine/4 wing section model is more difficult to analyze. CLmax as a function of AoA for a specific airfoil may be found in the sectional plots, then extrapolated from 2 D to 3 D by taking into effect AR and form factor it may be obtained in flight tests under controlled conditions.

Eh.... let's take the X-wing, destroyed a whole Deathstar

 

[Lucky13]

Is the X-Wing the best looking of the lot?

 

[GrauGeist]

Is the X-Wing the best looking of the lot?

Nope, the Viper is!

 

[Colin1]

Some info updated as well as some new info

Also, the Viper's cannons will (apparently) take down the X-Wing's shields eventually.
As a BVR platform, the Viper's got the reach on the X-Wing, in a furball it's hard to know, the X-Wing's shields at least give him some breathing space while the smaller, lighter and (slightly) faster Viper is going to be harder to hit anyway.

Edit: in the light of the new info, if a mod wants to reset the poll to zero that's fine with me

 

[Njaco]

Well, I don't know: Are they both going to stall at the same time in a turn? Independent of which stalls first (hopefully inboard), will the actual stall break point be the same for high G turning flight as it proved in level flight? The 4 engine/4 wing section model is more difficult to analyze. CLmax as a function of AoA for a specific airfoil may be found in the sectional plots, then extrapolated from 2 D to 3 D by taking into effect AR and form factor it may be obtained in flight tests under controlled conditions.

Eh.... let's take the X-wing, destroyed a whole Deathstar

ummm, don't ya need gravity for stall to be a factor?

 

[GrauGeist]

Also, the Viper had a number of variants.

The Mk I wasn't all that impressive, but starting with the Mk II, the firepower was upgraded along with hard-points, engines and tactical/logistics enhancements. While they weren't capable of Hyper-drive, they could achieve high sub-light speeds.

If I'm not mistaken, the last Viper version was the Mk VII?

 

[Vassili Zaitzev]

Yup, the Mark VII was the lastest version. Pretty impressive, just watch out for cylon backdoors on the computer.

 

[Maestro]

ummm, don't ya need gravity for stall to be a factor?

Well, technically the Death Star was creating some sort of gravity...

I vote for the X-Wing. A great fighter... and I always liked the way it looked.