swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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- Jun 25, 2013
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I remember that popping up in a book about the He 177. I'm surprised that would have been a problem despite having poor oil resources, they did start using synthetic POL as early as 36.Ehm what was the He-177 a tactical bomber? When they got ~300 of them in operation in mid 1944 they realized one thing ...they didn't have enough fuel for them AND the rest of their fleet.
Plus they were producing so many different aircraft designs and didn't seem to have a central clearinghouse to weed out designs that couldn't hack it.Germany never had the fuel and industrial infrastructure to produce thousands of 4 engine bombers.
And again, the reason for the 20 month gap for the Stirling between first flight and first mission are the facts that the Luftwaffe hit the Shorts factory in the late supper....
Attacked during late supper?
That's just uncivilised old chap!
I remember that popping up in a book about the He 177. I'm surprised that would have been a problem despite having poor oil resources, they did start using synthetic POL as early as 36.
Plus they were producing so many different aircraft designs and didn't seem to have a central clearinghouse to weed out designs that couldn't hack it.
What is the appropriate time for one to be attacked? Apologies for being a bit of a lout.Could have been worse ........ if they'd attacked at breakfast, then everyone would have been slightly irritated !!
I would imagine sometime after breakfast but before lunch.What is the appropriate time for one to be attacked? Apologies for being a bit of a lout.
I dont think the Germans were producing too many prototypes, they were producing too few. The allies were able to produce a myriad of prototytpes.
The backups to the Ju 288 nor He 177 never got past a single prototype whereas the UK produced Manchester, Lancaster, Sterling, Warwich. The US had B17 B24, B29, B32 etc.
Any attacks in Yorkshire, Devon and Cornwall should be over before consumption of scones, jam and cream commences, no self respecting despot would interfere with high tea.I would imagine sometime after breakfast but before lunch.
There is perhaps a small window between two and four, but certainly not at four in the afternoon.
Anytime after four and through dinnertime is unacceptable and anytime between bedtime and morning is simply barbaric...
Why didn't they target oil more extensively earlier? I remember there was a misguided belief in them having underground stocksThere was certainly a serious oil problem, having to supply not only themselves but occupied Europe and Axis allies with fuel, however they had enough to run a small fleet of 4 engine aircraft. The fuel shortage became acute in the lead up to operation overlord when allied bombers began targeting the German oil industry around March/April/May to cause maximum shortages prior to the invasion. They had in fact avoided targeting the German oil industry so that it didn't have time to take measures.
Is that why they tried to go for Stalingrad? If they succeeded the war could have gone very differently...Note also that one objective of the German Army was to capture the Caucasian Oil fields.
I remember there was a misguided belief in them having underground stocks..
They though they had underground refineries?It wasnt misguided, they had about a million cubic meters underground, but it wasnt so far underneath it was bomb-proof. It was the refineries which they failed to put underground (believe it or not, its quite possible).
They though they had underground refineries?
There was certainly a serious oil problem, having to supply not only themselves but occupied Europe and Axis allies with fuel, however they had enough to run a small fleet of 4 engine aircraft. The fuel shortage became acute in the lead up to operation overlord when allied bombers began targeting the German oil industry around March/April/May to cause maximum shortages prior to the invasion. They had in fact avoided targeting the German oil industry so that it didn't have time to take measures. After the oil industry campaign and D-day created severe shortages there was no point keeping any bombers and they were mostly scrapped.
Why didn't they target oil more extensively earlier?