WW2 Gliders.

evangilder · Jan 22, 2005

Cool video, a neat piece of history. After watching that, I don't think I would have wanted to be in a glider! Looks like a wild ride.

the lancaster kicks ass · Jan 23, 2005

downloading now, can't wait to see it...............

if anyone finds any other RAF related films please post..............

cheddar cheese · Jan 23, 2005

Your Welcome Kiwi-Pete. Im downloading now and looking forward to watching it, im sure its great 8)

How about the Dambusters, lanc?

the lancaster kicks ass · Jan 23, 2005

it didn't work, i downloaded it, i just can't watch it, it's a zip file and i've tried extracting it but it says there's no file to extract............

cheddar cheese · Jan 23, 2005

Just click the file straight from inside it, dont bother extracting it...

Nice vid BTW! I never realised Horsas came in to land at angles as steep as that...

the lancaster kicks ass · Jan 23, 2005

i can't open the file..............

cheddar cheese · Jan 23, 2005

Hehe...

Kiwi-Pete · Jan 24, 2005

If any of you use WinMx I am sharing over 2000 aviation video files there, from all eras. I go by the handle Waikato, and have a locate file named Waikato111.wmv.

Vahe Demirjian · Dec 11, 2019

There was a chubby US transport glider, the Laister-Kauffman CG-10, that was intended for the US invasion of Japan (which never materialized). More info is available at this Wikipedia article:

Laister-Kauffman CG-10 - Wikipedia

Admiral Beez · Dec 16, 2019

Piaggio108 said:
Back on topic, the following is a list of gliders I can name

Kokusai Ku-8

Wikipedia says the Ku-8 started off as a powered aircraft, the Kokusai Ki-59. This must be unusual, as most gliders with engines started started off as gliders.

Admiral Beez · Dec 16, 2019

Piaggio108 said:
Back on topic, the following is a list of gliders I can name

CG-4
CG-13
Airspeed Horsa
General Aircraft Hamlcar
Gotha Go.242
DFS 230
Messerschmitt Me.323
Antonov A-7
Kokusai Ku-8

They could be quite effective if used properly, the most sucsessful mission was the German capture of the fortress Eben-Emal.

I had no idea the US had so many gliders.

List of military aircraft of the United States - Wikipedia

Look at this thing.... I thought gliders are supposed to be disposable.

tyrodtom · Dec 17, 2019

Admiral Beez said:
I had no idea the US had so many gliders.

List of military aircraft of the United States - Wikipedia

Look at this thing.... I thought gliders are supposed to be disposable.

View attachment 564217

Sorta looks like a glider version of a C123.

swampyankee · Dec 17, 2019

Perhaps the oddest DC-3 variant was that of glider.

I think they made a prototype, then wiser heads prevailed.

The USN also had prototype amphibious (?) gliders made, to land in the surf and discharge their cargo (self-loading and otherwise) onto the beach. Again, wiser heads prevailed.

Shortround6 · Dec 17, 2019

Admiral Beez said:
I had no idea the US had so many gliders.

List of military aircraft of the United States - Wikipedia

Look at this thing.... I thought gliders are supposed to be disposable.

View attachment 564217

what happens when you put jets on a glider

It certainly looks badass
some B-47 is missing some engines.

ThomasP · Dec 17, 2019

oooooh

Admiral Beez · Jan 10, 2024

What was the intended mission for the Kokusai Ku-7 glider? You can't drop assault gliders into the jungle. Perhaps it's for resupply to otherwise cut off airfields?

Capt. Vick · Jan 10, 2024

tyrodtom said:
Sorta looks like a glider version of a C123.

I was...

EwenS · Jan 10, 2024

Admiral Beez said:
What was the intended mission for the Kokusai Ku-7 glider? You can't drop assault gliders into the jungle. Perhaps it's for resupply to otherwise cut off airfields?

Try telling that to the Chindits! Not everywhere is impenetrable jungle. There are clearings into which gliders can land.

See the Allied Operation Thursday, the Second Chindit operation.

The Chindits - Operation Thursday - The Chindit Society

Operation Thursday was the codename of the second Chindit deep penetration campaign. Fought in 1944, it is remembered here on its 75th anniversary.

thechinditsociety.org.uk

Both the IJA and the IJN had parachute units in WW2. The IJA deployed parachute troops at Palembang in Feb 1942 to capture the airfields before seaborne landings took place. Gliders would have been useful for bringing in heavier equipment.

Japanese marine paratroopers of World War II - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Teishin Shudan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ku-8 was developed in Dec 1941 by removing the engines and undercarriage from the Ki-59 light transport. Able to carry 20 troops or a mountain gun and crew.

Ku-7 remained experimental. Designed to carry 32 troops or an 8 ton tank, the Type 95 Ha-Go light tank.

Type 95 Ha-Go light tank - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There was also the Ki=105 Ohtori which was a powered version of the Ku-7. Prototypes in 1945 but plans for 300 to carry fuel oil from Sumatra to Japan came to nothing.

Britain was amassing an airborne corps in India in the summer of 1945. 2 divisions including both parachute & glider borne troops. Some 6 RAF glider squadrons were formed with CG-4A Hadrian gliders and Horsas were also to be on hand as well. A powered version of the Hamilcar, the Hamilcar X, was developed specifically for the Far East.

https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/heritage/general-aircraft-gal58-hamilcar-x

Geoffrey Sinclair · Jan 11, 2024

Gliders were built for the USAAF and USN. The following excludes the USN glider bombs, XBG-1, LBT-1, LBD-1.

Maker	Location	Model	1941	1942	1943	1944	1945	1946	Total
Total	Total	Total	8	1,619	6,306	4,411	3,440	5	15,789
Waco	Troy	XCG-3	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
Commonwealth	Kansas City	CG-3A	0	1	99	0	0	0	100
Babcock	Deland	CG-4A	0	0	60	0	0	0	60
Cessna	Wichita	CG-4A	0	739	1	0	0	0	740
Cessna	Wichita	LRW-1	0	10	0	0	0	0	10
Commonwealth	Kansas City	CG-4A	0	0	527	423	520	0	1,470
Ford	Iron Mountain	CG-4A	0	5	1,295	1,398	1,492	0	4,190
G & A	Willow Grove	CG-4A	0	1	224	246	155	0	626
G & A	Willow Grove	LRW-1	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
General	Astoria	CG-4A	0	16	661	336	99	0	1,112
Gibson	Greenville	CG-4A	0	2	641	412	23	0	1,078
Laister-Kauffman	St. Louis	CG-4A	0	0	110	100	100	0	310
National	Elwood	CG-4A	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Northwestern	Minneapolis	CG-4A	0	6	602	339	562	0	1,509
Pratt Read	Deep River	CG-4A	0	3	581	339	31	0	954
Pratt Read	Deep River	LRW-1	0	0	2	0	0	0	2
Ridgefield	Ridgefield	CG-4A	0	2	81	72	0	0	155
Robertson	St. Louis	CG-4A	0	0	77	87	6	0	170
Timm	Alameda	CG-4A	0	4	429	0	0	0	433
Timm	Alameda	XCG-4B	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Waco	Troy	XCG-4	0	2	0	0	0	0	2
Waco	Troy	CG-4A	0	13	533	528	0	0	1,074
Ward	Fort Smith	CG-4A	0	0	7	0	0	0	7
St. Louis	St. Louis	XCG-5	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
Bowlus	San Fernando	XCG-7	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Bowlus	San Fernando	XCG-8	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Laister-Kauffman	St. Louis	XCG-10	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Laister-Kauffman	St. Louis	XCG-10A	0	0	0	0	1	0	1
Laister-Kauffman	St. Louis	YCG-10A	0	0	0	0	1	2	3
Waco	Troy	XCG-13	0	0	2	0	0	0	2
Ford	Iron Mountain	YCG-13	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
Ford	Iron Mountain	YCG-13A	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
Ford	Iron Mountain	CG-13A	0	0	0	85	0	0	85
Northwestern	Minneapolis	YCG-13	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Northwestern	Minneapolis	YCG-13A	0	0	0	2	0	0	2
Northwestern	Minneapolis	CG-13A	0	0	0	31	16	0	47
Chase	New York	XCG-14	0	0	0	0	2	0	2
Waco	Troy	XCG-15	0	0	0	1	2	0	3
Waco	Troy	CG-15A	0	0	0	9	418	0	427
General	Astoria	XCG-16	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
Cornelius	Tulsa	XFG-1	0	0	0	0	0	2	2
Northwestern	Minneapolis	XPG-1	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Northwestern	Minneapolis	PG-2A	0	0	0	0	10	0	10
Ridgefield	Ridgefield	XPG-2	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Waco	Troy	XPG-3	0	0	0	0	1	0	1
Frankfort	Joliet	XTG-1	1	2	0	0	0	0	3
Frankfort	Joliet	TG-1A	0	40	0	0	0	0	40
Schweizer	Elmira	XTG-2	3	0	0	0	0	0	3
Schweizer	Elmira	TG-2	0	26	0	0	0	0	26
Schweizer	Elmira	XTG-3	0	3	0	0	0	0	3
Schweizer	Elmira	TG-3A	0	15	95	0	0	0	110
Airgliders	Acron	TG-3A	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Laister-Kauffman	St. Louis	XTG-4	0	3	0	0	0	0	3
Laister-Kauffman	St. Louis	TG-4A	0	36	114	0	0	0	150
Aeronica	Middletown	TG-5	0	250	0	0	0	0	250
Aeronica	Middletown	LNR-1	0	3	0	0	0	0	3
Taylorcraft	Alliance	TG-6	0	250	0	0	0	0	250
Taylorcraft	Alliance	LNT-1	0	3	0	0	0	0	3
Piper	Lock Haven	TG-8	0	159	91	0	0	0	250
Piper	Lock Haven	LNP-1	0	3	0	0	0	0	3
Briegleb	n/a	XTG-13	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
Pratt Read	Deep River	XLNE-1	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Pratt Read	Deep River	LNE-1	0	10	63	0	0	0	73
Schweizer	Elmira	LNS-1	4	8	0	0	0	0	12
Allied	Dundalk	XLRA-1	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
Bristol	West Haven	XLRQ-1	0	0	1	0	1	0	2

XCG-1 Frankfort 1 cancelled
XCG-2 Frankfort 1 cancelled
XCG-6 St. Louis 1 cancelled
XCG-9 AGA Aviation 2 cancelled
XCG-11 Snead 2 cancelled
XCG-12 Read-York 2 cancelled
CG-17 1 C-47 converted
CG-18 on well post war,
XCG-18A Chase Aircraft 3, 46-067, 46-506, 46-507, the latter cancelled
YG-18 Chase Aircraft 5, 47-640/4, contracts say 641 became YC-122, rest accepted as gliders.
CG-19 Douglas cancelled
CG-20 Chase Aircraft 2, 47-786/7, contracts say 1 as CG-20, 1 as XC-122. 47-787 reported reserialled 53-8068 as YC-123D, accepted 2 March 55

CG-18 became C-122 when fitted with engines. Apart from glider conversions 1 YC-122A, 1 YC-122B, 9 YC-122C were ordered
CG-20 became C-123 when fitted with engines, seems 1 accepted as such, not glider. 165 C-123B ordered in 1952 fiscal year, production from 1953.

bf109xxl · Jan 11, 2024

Soviet gliders (only produced in series):
Gribovsky G-11
Antonov A-7
Tsybin(Cibin) KC-20
Gliders were widely used mainly at night to supply guerrilla units.

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