Peter Gunn
Master Sergeant
Totally agree, perhaps the title can be something like:
"Did the Avro Groundhog have the Nutsack to pull off the Atomic Mission?"
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"Did the Avro Groundhog have the Nutsack to pull off the Atomic Mission?"
buffnut453
Captain
Well, it rather depends on whether we're talking internal or external nutsacks. The latter are higher drag but the the poor groundhog may lack the internal capacity or fortitude for the former.
windhund116
Senior Airman
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It's the main reason they went to triple-staged super-turbocharging, with Nitrous Oxide boost! To overcome heavier external nutsacks.
buffnut453
Captain
Hmmm...I thought they just removed the nose armour and relocated the radio.
Dash119
Senior Airman
Everyone seems to forget... They also removed the IFF from the tail.
Simon Thomas
Senior Airman
I liked the silverplated nutsacks, as it significantly reduced the likelihood of the groundhog's rear end catching fire.
glennasher
Senior Airman
Here he is, attempting to rotate, but I don't know if his nutsack is effecting his COG or not, I would think so, unless he forgot to remove his IFF.
The advantage of external nutsacks is that they are air cooled.
buffnut453
Captain
Yes...overheating nutsacks caused no end of problems and discomfort.
Reluctant Poster
Tech Sergeant
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Having grown up where it reaches minus 40 I would be more concerned about over cooling. At 20,00 feet it gets cold enough to freeze the proverbial brass monkey.
buffnut453
Captain
This is the groundhog thread. If you want to start a monkey thread (brass or otherwise) be my guest.
That said, we all know that monkeys were highly capable weapon systems that had none of the tumbling or altitude limitations of the groundhog. Overall, a far superior platform that tended to invoke dread in its adversaries.
Below are photographs from the various flight trials of the MkI, MkII and MkIII monkey with the differing wing forms that were unique to each variant:
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Did the VVS receive flying monkeys lend-lease?
buffnut453
Captain
Yes, but they only equipped one squadron associated with the Night Witches and, like the latter, it had a female CO seen here mission planning with one of her flight commanders:
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Man, I set that one up for you!
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
And the kicker is you'd have to be an aviation buff to get it.
buffnut453
Captain
It's what I do....I'm here all week! 
GregP
Major
Didn't the Japanese try to attack the U.S.A. by spreading Anthrax with flying monkeys?
They WOULD have used Samurai Kamakaze groundhogs, but there was no way to transport them across the Pacific Ocean in such a way as to leave them combat ready when they got there. Groundhogs do NOT do well at sea, and their nutsacks shrink more than can be tolerated. All they wanted to do when they got to the U.S.A. was kiss the ground.
They WOULD have used Samurai Kamakaze groundhogs, but there was no way to transport them across the Pacific Ocean in such a way as to leave them combat ready when they got there. Groundhogs do NOT do well at sea, and their nutsacks shrink more than can be tolerated. All they wanted to do when they got to the U.S.A. was kiss the ground.
Wait - didn't the Japanese have long range sea otters with groundhog hangars behind their conning towers? In the stormy north Pacific, the ride is much less nutsack-shrinking two hundred feet down. A fleet of these could have devastated the west coast. Good thing they didn't think of it!
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
That makes sense, I know they tried in the North Atlantic but the nutsack shrinkage would not allow any payload to be carried.
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