"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (9 Viewers)

[GTX]

Unsurprising given Lula position leaning towards Moscow.

I don't why leftist goverments think that a proPutin or neutral view in this war is ok.

I don't think it is so much leftist governments since there are plenty who are pro-ukraine and providing military support. Rather there are some misguided ones who are anti what they would class as imperialist/colonial (e.g. USA, UK etc) and then play into the theme of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" style thinking. It isn't quite that clear cut/strong but I hope you get what I mean. You see it is Africa too. The likes of Russian/Chinese propaganda plays a part as well.

 

[SaparotRob]

Pic of 'waxwork' Putin with Chechen warlord stokes 'body double' rumours

SUSPICIONS surrounding Vladimir Putin’s alleged use of body doubles have again been roused after a waxwork-like selfie of him emerged. The Russian President looked eerily rigid as he smiled f…

www.thesun.co.uk

Putin's body double goes out and meets the crowd. If there's an assassination attempt, the FSB lets it succeed. The FSB gets the killer and the real Putin gets out of dodge, Hague free.
OR the FSB lets the attempt succeed and the FSB offs the real Putin and they replace him. No Hague involved.

 

[Escuadrilla Azul]

I don't think it is so much leftist governments since there are plenty who are pro-ukraine and providing military support. Rather there are so misguided ones who are anti what they would class as imperialist/colonial (e.g. USA, UK etc) and then play into the theme of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" style thinking. It isn't quite that clear cut/strong but I hope you get what I mean. You see it is Africa too. The likes of Russian/Chinese propaganda plays a part as well.

Yes, that was I just what I want to mean

 

[GTX]

Russia’s population nightmare is going to get even worse

archived 26 Jun 2023 23:37:26 UTC

archive.fo

Yes, definitely


View: https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1674655820494041090

 

[Admiral Beez]

Human Rights Watch reports new evidence of Ukrainian use of banned landmines

Human Rights Watch says it has found new evidence of the indiscriminate use by Ukrainian forces of banned anti-personnel landmines against Russian troops.

www.abc.net.au

If you're laying land mines in your own country, what difference does it matter? Surely a nation needn't concern itself with what HRW think?

 

[RogerdeLluria]

I don't know what to believe anymore ...


View: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1674875070731124736

 

[Denniss]

I don't know what to believe anymore ...

please add a short summary for us poor souls without a Twitter account as we are currently unable to access anything there.

 

[GrauGeist]

She is obviously there to help bring attention to a serious issue that will have to be addressed in the future - that of the environmental consequences of the war and what will be required in the future. I know some people feel threatened by her but she is well recognised globally for her environmental activism which helps bring appropriate focus to this issue. Comments such as those above are just pathetic.

Than where was she during the Syrian war or the ongoing conflicts in Africa (including the cobalt mining that's an environmental disaster)?


She is nothing more than a tool: she has no formal education in any of the fields she's representing.

Appearing in the Ukraine is just convenient for photo opportunities - Ukrainians need help all across the board (food, medicine, clothing and military gear), not loud children.
Save that for later.

 

[manta22]

She is obviously there to help bring attention to a serious issue that will have to be addressed in the future - that of the environmental consequences of the war and what will be required in the future. I know some people feel threatened by her but she is well recognised globally for her environmental activism which helps bring appropriate focus to this issue. Comments such as those above are just pathetic.

If someone is about to lose a war and die, does the "environment" mean a lot to them?

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Lets not turn this into a political side discussion.

 

[MiTasol]

please add a short summary for us poor lucky souls without a Twitter account as we are currently unable to access anything there.

Corrected

 

[SaparotRob]

If you're laying land mines in your own country, what difference does it matter? Surely a nation needn't concern itself with what HRW think?

I have no doubts at all that the AFU will be far more circumspect about who, what and where they target. Ukraine tries to preserve the lives of its citizens. Russian leadership, however, has shown extreme disregard for life, human or Russian.

 

[MiTasol]

And you can bet your life that Ukraine has mapped those minefields so they can clear them safely after the Russians are gone.

 

[SaparotRob]

And you can bet your life that Ukraine has mapped those minefields so they can clear them safely after the Russians are gone.

Or at least made the effort. It's hard to remember you are there to drain the swamp when you are up to your neck in alligators.

 

[Admiral Beez]

And you can bet your life that Ukraine has mapped those minefields so they can clear them safely after the Russians are gone.

No, many land mines are artillery fired and will be time consuming to find.

When the war is over essentially the entirely of the Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea oblasts will need to be divided into grids and searched and de-mined square meter by square meter.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

If you're laying land mines in your own country, what difference does it matter? Surely a nation needn't concern itself with what HRW think?

And they also, presumably, have mapped where the mines are laid -- at least generally, obvs.

ETA: MiTasol hit it first, good call.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

She is obviously there to help bring attention to a serious issue that will have to be addressed in the future - that of the environmental consequences of the war and what will be required in the future. I know some people feel threatened by her but she is well recognised globally for her environmental activism which helps bring appropriate focus to this issue. Comments such as those above are just pathetic.

Quite frankly, while I'm onboard with changing how we address ecology, my joke was aimed more at the goddamned sanctimony. "Threatened"? No, and trying to impute that to me is laughable.

I was pretty aware of the issue long before little Greta came along, and didn't need her preachments to alert me to the issue, thankyouverymuch.

 

[MiTasol]

 

[Admiral Beez]

While China may be able to get Putin to start negotiating, I doubt they'll be able to convince Ukraine to lay down arms after the last fourteen months. Unless and until China can deliver that, this probably won't go anywhere.

China plays the long game.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pz8qsDw5DX4

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

China plays the long game.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pz8qsDw5DX4

I'm getting ready to to go to bed, but to address the first point in this video, that China wants to split the West, and that this may be a benefit, I'm thinking that horse has done left the barn. This war has drawn the West closer, and has seen NATO gain one member and have another on the doorstep.

I'd also argue that the West is probably more prepared to be united against a Chinese move against Taiwan.

I'll watch the rest tomorrow and reply once I've done that.