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The RAN is well above the capability of the RCN. I ran a quick comparison via ChatGPT (so take it with bag of salt):
"Make me a comparison chart of the RCN vs the RAN"
Feature Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) Royal Australian Navy (RAN) Founded 1910 1913 Headquarters Ottawa, Ontario Canberra, Australian Capital Territory Motto "Safer Seas, Stronger Canada" "Integrity, Capability, Loyalty" Fleet Size Approximately 30 ships (as of 2023) Approximately 50 ships (as of 2023) Submarines 4 modern submarines (Victoria class) 6 modern submarines (Collins class) Surface Combatants 12 Halifax-class frigates 9 Anzac-class frigates, 3 Hobart-class destroyers Support Vessels Auxiliary ships, replenishment ships Supply ships, hydrographic vessels Air Arm CH-148 Cyclone helicopters, fixed-wing support MH-60R Seahawk, MRH-90 Taipan helicopters Operational Focus Arctic operations, anti-submarine warfare Regional security, humanitarian missions International Alliances NATO, Commonwealth, various coalitions ANZUS, Commonwealth, various coalitions Major Exercises RIMPAC, TRIDENT JUNCTURE, and others RIMPAC, Talisman Sabre, and others Current Challenges Aging fleet, modernization needs Capacity expansion, balancing regional threats
A quick eye will see that calling the Victoria class SSKs modern is a stretch, while the RAN is missing its Canberra-class LHDs. Damn Canada should have bought those Mistrals.
Our CH-148 Cyclone helicopters are apparently maintenance hogs at risk of being death traps. I wouldn't wish them upon Ukraine. I can't think of a time other than the CF-100 where Canada was the near-only other operator of a type.The Anzac frigates are way down on the performance of the German frigates they are licenced copies of because of the Au "improvements" and the Taipan helicopters have all been broken up and buried - instead of being given to Ukraine who wanted them and could have successfully operated them.
At 30 years old the Collins subs are like your Victoria class boats - technological dinosaurs.
I don't dispute the need for the money and it was certainly necessary. But it's a whole lot easier to complain about Putin's actions and write a cheque, than to directly engage. I'm sure supplying arms and munitions were included in Putin's calculus, likewise included in his calculus was NATO would not intervene and he was correct. As mentioned. We have seen this war before in 1939.That while lot of doing nothing (in excess of $400 Billion and counting) certainly has helped give Putin a bloody nose. While I strongly believe more should be done and faster, to say that "the west would do nothing and he was right" is disingenuous.
Putin was like Hitler, in his "nibbling" at various nations right up to 2022.
Encroachments in Georgia, Moldova and Crimea were all met with stern language from NATO and the UN security Council.
In 2022, when Zelensky said send ammunition instead, this woke the west up.
I will say that it is shameful that Russia was allowed to re-enact late 1930's Germany in regards to taking territory from sovereign nations unchallenged, but I am glad the vapors of appeasement vanished in 2022 unlike 1939.
I beg to differ. The ANZACs have gone through some significant updates over recent years as have the Collins class. The Collins class are continuing to be upgraded. Unfortunately their SSN replacements will take time but to call them "technological dinosaurs" is misleading.The Anzac frigates are way down on the performance of the German frigates they are licenced copies of because of the Au "improvements" and the Taipan helicopters have all been broken up and buried - instead of being given to Ukraine who wanted them and could have successfully operated them.
At 30 years old the Collins subs are like your Victoria class boats - technological dinosaurs.
What's the name of the movie where the Bradley is a boondoggle? I think Kelsey Grammer is in it.
The support is far more than just cash. Go educate yourself - here's a start: Ukraine Support Tracker - A Database of Military, Financial and Humanitarian Aid to UkraineI don't dispute the need for the money and it was certainly necessary. But it's a whole lot easier to complain about Putin's actions and write a cheque, than to directly engage.
BS!! If Putin had any inkling of how this has turned out he would not have started it. Yes the West didn't give strong enough signals beforehand but as said, once the Ukrainian resolve to fight was seen things changed.I'm sure supplying arms and munitions were included in Putin's calculus, likewise included in his calculus was NATO would not intervene and he was correct.
Your choice but your opinion needs to be led by facts and if you are aware of these facts than I stand by my classification.
The way I have explained it was "Putin thought he was dealing with a Mr Bean but instead he got a Churchill"In 2022, when Zelensky said send ammunition instead, this woke the west up.