I read earlier today that a majority of Finns now support joining NATO. I say welcome 'em in, the sooner the better.
Same with Sweden.
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I read earlier today that a majority of Finns now support joining NATO. I say welcome 'em in, the sooner the better.
Hate is a very strong emotion my friend. I try to limit myself to "head over heels in dislike".I get the feeling I actually hate this man. I try not to hate anyone.
If he attacks any of those NATO countries the west will need to go to war, if only to expel the Russians from NATO territory. And can you imagine the Russian military trying to invade Poland in the same condition and skill it invade Ukraine? That forty mile convoy? NATO air forces will chew it to bits. Abrams, Leo IIs and Challenger 2s will mop up the rest. I am surprised Canada hasn't dispatched its Leo IIs to the CAF force in Latvia - they're doing us no good here. I wouldn't want to be flying a forty year old CF-18 against the latest VVS fighters though.Agreed. He knows that NATO was never a threat to invade Russia. He also knows he has all the power and can practically do what he wants because NATO will not risk Nuclear War. I fear for Latvia, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, etc.
If he attacks any of those NATO countries the west will need to go to war, if only to expel the Russians from NATO territory. And can you imagine the Russian military trying to invade Poland in the same condition and skill it invade Ukraine? That forty mile convoy? NATO air forces will chew it to bits. Abrams, Leo IIs and Challenger 2s will mop up the rest. I am surprised Canada hasn't dispatched its Leo IIs to the CAF force in Latvia - they're doing us no good here. I wouldn't want to be flying a forty year old CF-18 against the latest VVS fighters though.
If he attacks any of those NATO countries the west will need to go to war, if only to expel the Russians from NATO territory. And can you imagine the Russian military trying to invade Poland in the same condition and skill it invade Ukraine? That forty mile convoy? NATO air forces will chew it to bits. Abrams, Leo IIs and Challenger 2s will mop up the rest. I am surprised Canada hasn't dispatched its Leo IIs to the CAF force in Latvia - they're doing us no good here.
CF-18s would fare quite well against their Russian opponents.If he attacks any of those NATO countries the west will need to go to war, if only to expel the Russians from NATO territory. And can you imagine the Russian military trying to invade Poland in the same condition and skill it invade Ukraine? That forty mile convoy? NATO air forces will chew it to bits. Abrams, Leo IIs and Challenger 2s will mop up the rest. I am surprised Canada hasn't dispatched its Leo IIs to the CAF force in Latvia - they're doing us no good here. I wouldn't want to be flying a forty year old CF-18 against the latest VVS fighters though.
After his army's showing in Ukraine, any attack on NATO would have to involve WMDs for the Russians to have a chance, I believe -- especially after reading the article about Russian logistics linked upthread.
Were it not for nuclear arms, I'd almost welcome this as a way to remove him from power.
The forces NATO would face would be the A team, not the Stolichnaya National Guard troops in Ukraine.
We told you not to mention that.Right, but that doesn't change the lack of organic logistics units or the home-field advantage -- not to mention the technological discrepancies between Russian and NATO equipment.
One thing I keep remembering is NEVER underestimate your opponent.
Agreed with both the posts above. I sure don't underestimate the carnage that would ensue from a Russo-NATO conflict, but dispatching the Russian reserves against a NATO country would strip Russia of freedom of operational action in Ukraine and force them to commit an occupation force against an insurgency that is certain to arise there.
It would, I think, be a bigger blunder than the invasion of Ukraine is itself, with little promise of success while removing any possibility of the Ukrainian invasion being a short, sharp, action.
I always get a kick on social media when people are so quick to scream for war. It's like "there is a recruiting office down the street guys. I'm sure the Marines or Army would love to have you."
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I agree completely it would be a blunder. I just question whether Putin thinks NATO will bluff and then he does something stupid. I think he thinks he has nothing to lose.
Just make sure Putin stays dead.Putin - Rasputin.
There are very close similarities .................