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I bet one could get a side hull kill using a PTRS-41 rifle. A BMPs 30mm autocannon would tear a Leopard 1 to shreds. Those tanks have no place on the modern battlefield.Going back to the use of the Leopard 1 tanks. The biggest problem will be the vulnerability to infantry AT weapons. A Russian equivalent to a Carl Gustav would be a serious problem.
Of course, Germany could have. The whole point of rearming Germany with the Bundeswehr was to defend against a Soviet Invasion. At one point Germany had the world's largest air defense network believe it or not. Once the Soviets Invaded, the Bundeswehr could go on the offensive to defeat the Soviet Army. As part of a NATO force, it could fight. They would not have stopped at the Polish border. The war would be fought until it was over, and in that event, Germany would fight.Good info and POV, thanks. With such a defensive posture I wonder if the Bundeswehr, as the backbone of NATO's ground forces in the 1970-80s would have been able to go on the offensive if the invading Red Army broke, or would they have just stopped at the Polish border? The one Axis power doing a big turnaround towards vast military capability is Japan. Meanwhile Italy, the third main Axis power gets a free pass on their aggressions. That doesn't seem fair.
Japan has been primarily passive since the end of WWII (with the exception of various Godzilla encounters), but China's recent aggressive posturing in the region has caused Japan to rethink their military's position.
None of their aims are offensive, but aimed more towards a reinforced defense force.
In other words, if China keeps fooling around with Japan, they run the risk of being on the receiving end of "f**k around and find out".
Did you know that BOC released that song in February 1978?Oh no, they say, he's got to go
Go go Godzilla, yeah
Oh no, there goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla, yeah
- Blue Oyster Cult
Still rocks.Did you know that BOC released that song in February 1978?
45 years ago...
Of course...but damn, I remember when it came out.Still rocks.
That means your mind is still sharp. Unless you can remember that, but can't remember where your reading glasses are. (Hint: Check on top of your head.)Of course...but damn, I remember when it came out.
Where did all the time go?
That does support the motivations behind the Jagdpanzer-like Kanonenjagdpanzer and Stridsvagn 103. I think if tarted up either would be as useful as the Leo1, especially the latter with its 105mm gun. And the S-tank only needs two crew.Leo 1 design was speed over armor - fire some rounds from a well hidden position then quickly move to new position.
Yes, the mission of our Corporal Type IIB artillery battalion was guarding the Fulda Gap. Any armor coming through there would have been struck by our nuclear warheads. After firing our Basic Load of guided Missiles, we would become infantrymen.Of course, Germany could have. The whole point of rearming Germany with the Bundeswehr was to defend against a Soviet Invasion. At one point Germany had the world's largest air defense network believe it or not. Once the Soviets Invaded, the Bundeswehr could go on the offensive to defeat the Soviet Army. As part of a NATO force, it could fight. They would not have stopped at the Polish border. The war would be fought until it was over, and in that event, Germany would fight.
However, let's be honest. Any invasion by the Soviet Union into Germany during the Cold War would have resulted in a nuclear holocaust. That is why the Cold War never went hot.
Italy is given a pass because they switched sides and largely took out their own government. Japan largely got off the hook as well, just like Italy did. I don't agree with this. Japanese aggression and atrocities were just as bad as those of the Nazis. Japan should have been forced to do a fully unconditional surrender and the government and emperor should have been punished as well, just as the Nazis were. Now having said that, I understand why the emperor was let off the hook. The Japanese people never would have accepted defeat if their emperor and government were not left in place.
Any invasion by the Soviet Union into Germany during the Cold War would have resulted in a nuclear holocaust.
Which is why Russia's invasion of Ukraine presents the West with an otherwise impossible opportunity to aid in the destruction of Russia's conventional forces, all without the nuclear winter.Any invasion by the Soviet Union into Germany during the Cold War would have resulted in a nuclear holocaust.
Yes, the mission of our Corporal Type IIB artillery battalion was guarding the Fulda Gap. Any armor coming through there would have been struck by our nuclear warheads. After firing our Basic Load of guided Missiles, we would become infantrymen.
It's a little different for the Ukranian school kids. When that air raid warning goes off there's a good chance your or your mates' home or school will be blown up.I loved air raid warnings when I was in public school. Duck and cover was always preferred to actually learning anything.
The Strv 103 had a 3 man crewThat does support the motivations behind the Jagdpanzer-like Kanonenjagdpanzer and Stridsvagn 103. I think if tarted up either would be as useful as the Leo1, especially the latter with its 105mm gun. And the S-tank only needs two crew.