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Argentine Navy and Army Images:
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Lucky13
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Just been going through this thread CB, interesting and bl**dy good pics!
One question, does your navy still have any aircraftcarriers?
One question, does your navy still have any aircraftcarriers?
Lucky13
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Just been going through this thread CB, interesting and bl**dy good pics!
One question, does your navy still have any aircraftcarriers?
One question, does your navy still have any aircraftcarriers?
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CharlesBronson
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Unfortunately no, the last was withdrawn from service in 1994.
And talking about the navy, this photo might be interesting for the british members, the 2 Vickers Made Type 42 destroyes/frigates, the one in the background ARA Hercules was converted to a fast transport to support the Marines, amd the ARA santisima Trinidad, seen here in full broadside is out of bussiness, was used mostly for spare parts after 1987.
And talking about the navy, this photo might be interesting for the british members, the 2 Vickers Made Type 42 destroyes/frigates, the one in the background ARA Hercules was converted to a fast transport to support the Marines, amd the ARA santisima Trinidad, seen here in full broadside is out of bussiness, was used mostly for spare parts after 1987.
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vikingBerserker
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Very cool. Shame about the aircraftg carrier. I always figured they would be useful for any country with a long coastline.
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CharlesBronson
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Indeed, The last oportunity was in year 2000, France offered one of the 2 carries, the Clemenceua, Argentina did not like the ship ( I guess they thought was too old but it was better than nada aniway) Brazil purchase the other, the Foch for merely 13 millons. Now is the Sao Paulo, the only Carrier south of Rio Grande. The Argentine Navy ocasionally do some exercises on it.
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CharlesBronson
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Lockheed Martin (Mcdonnell Douglas)A-4Ar Fighting Hawk, probable the most handsome A-4 variant ever. Is used as a strike and tactical fighter ( limited interception capabilities with sidewinders helped by his APG-66 radar) by the 4th and 5th Fighter Squadrons (Air Force)
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parsifal
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Ah A-4s, you bring a tear to my eye CB.....
Matt308
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Love the A-4 variants.
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parsifal
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Fantastic.....when did the Argentines acquire the humpback A-4s? I assume after the Malvinas/Falklands, and to replace lost airframes?
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CharlesBronson
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Yes, in 1997, the A-4ar is basically an A-4m with F-16 electronics, the conversion was made by Lockheed-Martin.
parsifal
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If this mark of a-4 has equivalent of f-16 electronics, I would say it has better than "limited" AAW capability. Even the RANs old A4Gs and Fs were reasonably effective against LR maritime aircraft in their day, operating and fleet defence fighters. I think the RAN were pioneers in using their A-4s in that caapacity....we used them (and configured accordingly) as fighters from acquisition in '67.....but perhaps not....
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That is correct, but the problem with them is the aircraft itself, the performances compared with a true fighter are poor (subsonics, rate of climb, etc) and the lack of medium range misiles like the Sparrow or skyflash. In the other hand the A-4ar is a neat strike aircraft wich have in his arsenal some stand off weapons like the GPS guided Dardo (dart) bomb and the laser guided missile AS-25, it has a good choice for defensive measures in an agressive electronic enviroment. The argentine Air Force is pretty confident that with the proper penetration tactics this aircraft could achieve every strike mission given against any possible enemy in the worst possible scenario on the south american continent... you simply cant ask for more of it.
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CharlesBronson
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That last photo from the rear of the A4 is one of the best that I have seen.
vikingBerserker
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I agree!
Hey Charles Bronson, the upgraded A-4 is certainly no match for a modern BVR fighter, but in terms of manoeuvrability down low they take some beating. The RNZAF A-4s were similarly modified in the 1980s, but were configured for GA and anti-ship only, with AIM-9s for self defence. They proved a formidable foe in exercises against Asia/Oceania air forces.
Those are beautiful shots, but I think this might be a better looking A-4, mate!
Those are beautiful shots, but I think this might be a better looking A-4, mate!
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CharlesBronson
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Hey Charles Bronson, the upgraded A-4 is certainly no match for a modern BVR fighter, but in terms of manoeuvrability down low they take some beating. The RNZAF A-4s were similarly modified in the 1980s, but were configured for GA and anti-ship only, with AIM-9s for self defence. They proved a formidable foe in exercises against Asia/Oceania air forces.
Those are beautiful shots, but I think this might be a better looking A-4, mate!
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And I explain and explained that to everybody with ears wich want to hear me, is a tactical aircraft with a very limited air-toair capabilities.
