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Vassili Zaitzev · Mar 3, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 22 SAVE
Do24T - 8
Hs 219 - 22 KILL
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 20 -
Fokker C.X - 16 -

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka - 40 SAVE / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Bristol Beaufighter / B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Thorlifter · Mar 3, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 24 SAVE
Do24T - 8
Hs 219 - 22
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 20 -
Fokker C.X - 14 - KILL

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka - 40 SAVE / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Bristol Beaufighter / B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

ccheese · Mar 3, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 26 - SAVE
Do24T - 8 - KILL
Hs 219 - 22
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 20 -
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka - 40 SAVE / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer
Bristol Beaufighter/ B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Charles

Marcel · Mar 3, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 26 - SAVE
Do24T - 6 - KILL
Hs 219 - 22
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 22 - Save
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka - 40 SAVE / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer
Bristol Beaufighter/ B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Marcel · Mar 3, 2010

Funny how an airplane that survived many missions in 5 days against the world's mightiest air-force without any casualties is killed by many here I guess you guys don't know anything about the C.X....

parsifal · Mar 4, 2010

Hi Marcel

Sorry about that, but there are more than a few anomalies happening here......

why is the Do24T being massacred?
why are Russian and French aircraft shot down in droves
why was the Macchi 202 written off
why was the oscar sent to the trash

etc etc

In the words of my generation sh*t happens

parsifal · Mar 4, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 26
Do24T - 6 -
Hs 219 - 20 KILL
SM - 79 Sparviero - 24 SAVE
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 22 -
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka - 40 SAVE / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer
Bristol Beaufighter/ B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Wayne Little · Mar 4, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 28 SAVE
Do24T - 6 -
Hs 219 - 20
SM - 79 Sparviero - 24
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 20 - KILL
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer
Bristol Beaufighter/ B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Arsenal VG-33 · Mar 4, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 28
Do24T - 4 - KILL
Hs 219 - 20
SM - 79 Sparviero - 24
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 22 - SAVE
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Ju-87 Stuka / Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer
Bristol Beaufighter/ B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111 / Piper-J3 Cub
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/ CAC CA 12 Boomerang
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"/Ju-87 Stuka

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Njaco · Mar 4, 2010

Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 28
Do24T - 6 SAVE
Hs 219 - 20
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22 KILL
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 22
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val / A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Bristol Beaufighter
B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo
PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI
F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch / G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Ju-87
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111
Piper-J3 Cub / P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow/
CAC CA 12 Boomerang / Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693
Curtis SB2C Helldiver / Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI Fairey Battle / Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / PZL P.11
P-26 Peashooter / Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator Petlyakov Pe-2 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna
Bloch MB.174

beaupower32 · Mar 4, 2010

Ju-87 Stuka - 34 SAVE
Do24T - 6
Bloch MB.174 - 2 KILL
Hs 219 - 26 -
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 20

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val - 40, A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo / Bristol Beaufighter
B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI / F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch
G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow / Piper-J3 Cub / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / CAC CA 12 Boomerang / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna

Marcel · Mar 4, 2010

parsifal said:
Hi Marcel

Sorry about that, but there are more than a few anomalies happening here......

why is the Do24T being massacred?
why are Russian and French aircraft shot down in droves
why was the Macchi 202 written off
why was the oscar sent to the trash

etc etc

In the words of my generation sh*t happens

Absolutely, it's really interesting to watch as it doesn't so much reflect the quality of the a/c, but more so people's preferences and knowledge. The bias against French and Russian a/c on the forum is of course well known. Didn't know that it extended to other nationalities as well.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 4, 2010

I too think it is funny. I find it funny that possibly the most capable and beautiful sea plane (Do 24) is being shot down amazingly fast. I will admit that I do vote against the French planes. Not because they are French however, or becuase of their capabilities. I vote against them based off of appearance. Quite frankly I do not like the way they look. That is why I vote against them. Rather funny, I know! I would never vote against an aircraft because of its nationality, that is just plain ignorant in my opinion.

Ju-87 Stuka - 34
Do24T - 8 Save
Bloch MB.174 - 0 Kill ---------- HOS
Hs 219 - 26
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 20
P-51D Mustang - 20 -------- New

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val - 40, A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo / Bristol Beaufighter
B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer / De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI / F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch
G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury / Heinkel He 111
P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow / Piper-J3 Cub / Supermarine Spitfire MKI
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / CAC CA 12 Boomerang / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Marcel · Mar 4, 2010

parsifal said:
Hi Marcel

Sorry about that, but there are more than a few anomalies happening here......

why is the Do24T being massacred?
why are Russian and French aircraft shot down in droves
why was the Macchi 202 written off
why was the oscar sent to the trash

etc etc

In the words of my generation sh*t happens

Absolutely, it's really interesting to watch as it doesn't so much reflect the quality of the a/c, but more so people's preferences and knowledge. The bias against French and Russian a/c on the forum is of course well known. Didn't know that it extended to other nationalities as well.

Marcel · Mar 4, 2010

At post 1070 we have:
Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' - 28
Do24T - 6 SAVE
Hs 219 - 20
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22 KILL
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 22
Fokker C.X - 14

At post 1071 we have:
Ju-87 Stuka - 34 SAVE
Do24T - 6
Bloch MB.174 - 2 KILL
Hs 219 - 26 -
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 20

Adler killes the Bloch,152 so it's been killed twice and the C.X just disappeared.

ccheese · Mar 4, 2010

I'm going to run with what we have in post 1073....

Ju-87 Stuka - 34
Do24T - 10 - SAVE
Hs 219 - 26
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 18 - KILL
P-51D Mustang - 20

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val - 40, A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo / Bristol Beaufighter/B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer
De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI / F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch/G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury
Heinkel He-111/P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow / Piper-J3 Cub / Supermarine Spitfire MKI/Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / CAC CA 12 Boomerang / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Charles

Gnomey · Mar 4, 2010

Ju-87 Stuka - 34
Do24T - 12 - SAVE
Hs 219 - 26
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 16 - KILL
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val - 40, A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo / Bristol Beaufighter/B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer
De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI / F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch/G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury
Heinkel He-111/P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow / Piper-J3 Cub / Supermarine Spitfire MKI/Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / CAC CA 12 Boomerang / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

vikingBerserker · Mar 4, 2010

Ju-87 Stuka - 36 SAVE
Do24T - 12
Hs 219 - 26
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 14 - KILL
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val - 40, A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo / Bristol Beaufighter/B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer
De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI / F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch/G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury
Heinkel He-111/P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow / Piper-J3 Cub / Supermarine Spitfire MKI/Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / CAC CA 12 Boomerang / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

Arsenal VG-33 · Mar 4, 2010

Marcel said:
Adler killes the Bloch,152 so it's been killed twice and the C.X just disappeared.

Not to mention between #1070 and #1071, the Hs 219 gets bumped up by 6 points quite mysteriously, and the MB. 157 is erroneously dropped by 2 points.

Marcel, I suggest we follow the trend and just add French and Dutch planes to the HoF without any voting at all.

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
I vote against them based off of appearance. Quite frankly I do not like the way they look.

What?? Are you really able to say this with a straight face? The MB.174 is a beautiful aircraft, but you've obviously proven this is not a criterion, other wise it would be in the HoF. But then I get your point, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I think the Do24T is ugly as sin.

Marcel · Mar 5, 2010

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
I too think it is funny. I find it funny that possibly the most capable and beautiful sea plane (Do 24) is being shot down amazingly fast. I will admit that I do vote against the French planes. Not because they are French however, or becuase of their capabilities. I vote against them based off of appearance. Quite frankly I do not like the way they look. That is why I vote against them. Rather funny, I know! I would never vote against an aircraft because of its nationality, that is just plain ignorant in my opinion.

You're forgetting the Bf109E I agree, one should not vote on nationality. I just vote for the more rare birds. We all know the P51, spit etc. So I vote for the piper, Fokker, Bloch etc. about which don't seem to be so popular.

Ju-87 Stuka - 34 - Kill
Do24T - 12
Hs 219 - 26
SM - 79 Sparviero - 22
YAK-3 - 22
Bloch MB 157 - 16 - Save
Fokker C.X - 14

Hall of Fame:
Aichi D3A1 Val - 40, A6M Zero / Avro Lancaster / BF-109G / Bf-109F / Bf-110 Zerstörer / Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo / Bristol Beaufighter/B-17 G Flying Fortress / B-24 Liberator / B-26 Marauder / C-47 Skytrain / PBY Catalina / PB4Y-2 Privateer
De Havilland Mosquito / FW-190D-9 / Fw 190A-8 / Fw 200 Condor / Fokker GI / F4F-3 Wildcat / F4U Corsair / Fiesler Fi156 Storch/G4M Betty / Ta 152 / Ju 52 / Ju 88 / Hawker Hurricane IIC / Hawker Tempest Mk V / Hawker Sea Fury
Heinkel He-111/P-38L Lighting / P-40 Warhawk / P-47D Thunderbolt / P-61 Black Widow / Piper-J3 Cub / Supermarine Spitfire MKI/Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' / CAC CA 12 Boomerang / N1K2 'Shiden-kai' George / Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Hall of Shame:
Avro Manchester / Blackburn Roc / Boulton Paul Defiant/ Bristol Blenheim / Breda Ba.88 / Bf 109 E-4 / Breguet 693 / Curtis SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17/ Dornier Do 217 / Dornier Do-335 / Dewoitine D 520 / Farman F.22 / Fokker D.XXI / Fairey Battle
Ilyushin IL-2 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon / IAR-80 / P-39 Airacobra / P-63 KingCobra / P-36 / P-26 Peashooter
Martin PBM Mariner / Martin JRM-1 "Mars" / Macchi MC 202 / Me 163 / Ta-154 / TBD Devastator / Petlyakov Pe-2
PZL P.11 / Gloster Gladiator / Gloster Meteor F1 / Nakajima Ki-27 / Nakajima Ki43 Oscar / Fiat B.R.20 Cicogna/Bloch MB.174

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