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• Apr 1, 2004

• #141

cheddar cheese

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yup 8) thats better....

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #142

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plan_D said:

How did I forget that? Of course, the Mosquito is the best Multi-role fighter, although you could put it in Medium Bomber. I don't care, it's the best.

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technically you could call the Mosquito a heavy bomber as it could carry a load equal to a B-17 8)

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #143

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yup, and it was faster and just generally better 8)

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #144

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Feb 19, 2004

Definately - the yanks should've used fleets of Mossies to bomb Germany instead of slow B-17s...i bet they would've had fewer losses...could make an interesting thread...'why didn't the Allies use Mossies in place of heavy bombers?'

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #145

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I know the answer...because the Americans were stupid...just joking. I don't think the Americans liked the idea of a wooden aircraft.

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #146

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'why didn't the Allies use Mossies in place of heavy bombers?'

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could do, i mean the mosquito was IMO the best all round plane of the war, i still dont like it though....

 

• Apr 1, 2004

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Fools! crazed American fools! The Mosquito was the BEST all round aircraft of the entire war! one of the reasons it was so damn good was the fact it was made of wood!

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #148

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cheddar cheese said:

'why didn't the Allies use Mossies in place of heavy bombers?'

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could do, i mean the mosquito was IMO the best all round plane of the war, i still dont like it though....

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Why don't you like the Mossie?

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #149

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How can you not like the Mossie? It was brilliant. It did everything from Recon to anti-shipping. And IT WAS MADE OF WOOD.

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #150

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i know, i respect it but i dont like it not sure why, it just doesnt seem to have captured my imgination in all the 4 months ive known about it

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #151

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The mosquito couldn't carry as much as the B-17 on a short mission, I was sceptical about that comment you made, sorry.

The B-17G could carry 17,600 lbs on short missions and 4000 lbs on long. Although it didn't say what distance determines a short or long mission.
The Mosquito could carry 8000 lbs, and it didn't say long or short, also it wouldn't of been able to carry it as far.

Still, 8000 lbs is good for a woodern fighter/bomber.

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #152

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from what i heard the max any b-17 could carry was 10,000lbs and no more than 6,000lbs for a mossie

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #153

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plan_D said:

The mosquito couldn't carry as much as the B-17 on a short mission, I was sceptical about that comment you made, sorry.

The B-17G could carry 17,600 lbs on short missions and 4000 lbs on long. Although it didn't say what distance determines a short or long mission.
The Mosquito could carry 8000 lbs, and it didn't say long or short, also it wouldn't of been able to carry it as far.

Still, 8000 lbs is good for a woodern fighter/bomber.

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So it WAS capable of carrying such weights? how about if it used disposable long-range fuel tanks under the wings? that would give it a much better range (although it already had an excellent one )

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #154

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i cant really see a mossie with jugs on

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #155

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Give what the better range, Mosquito or B-17?

Fuel is more weight, therefore less bomb load, so it still wouldn't work out.

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #156

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Fuel is more weight, therefore less bomb load, so it still wouldn't work out.

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thats a valid point youve missed there bronze

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #157

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plan_D said:

Give what the better range, Mosquito or B-17?

Fuel is more weight, therefore less bomb load, so it still wouldn't work out.

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I meant the Mossie - you said the mossie didn't have the range of the B-17...besides...what you say is true about less bomb load because of more fuel weight...BUT that just means they would've had to have flown a few more bombers on the mission just to make sure they did enough damage but i still stick by the idea that the mossies would've suffered less losses and been more effective than a huge lump of noisy, slow moving metal which might as well have had the word 'TARGET' pained on the side of it without fghter escort B-17s suffered huge losses cos you can cover these planes with as many guns as you want but at the end of the day they are still sitting ducks.... (yes, i know its a chicken but they don't have any ducks)

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #158

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in the b-17's defence though, it did have a good ceiling for a bomber 8)

 

• Apr 1, 2004

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Besides if a Mosquito bomber gets shot down you only lose two men but if a B-17 goes down you lose 10 men

spot the difference

 

• Apr 1, 2004

• #160

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Hahah. I can't imagine mass formations of Mossies, I don't think they'd get the same coverage either. Lets keep the yanks in their big clumsy bombers and we stay in the nimble Mossies..