Doughboy
Staff Sergeant
Please, do show more.
"It's an early version, IMHO if you are going to judge the P-51, you should start with at least the D version. "
Exactly.
Best World War II Aircraft?
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"It's an early version, IMHO if you are going to judge the P-51, you should start with at least the D version. "
Exactly.
Dark Matter
Banned
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- Jun 23, 2009
Well then lets see you find some facts about the not best wwii aircraft.
Especialy when the world is lost saying that the P-51 is the all time best.
Youl probably find 10000 sites that are wrong and say that the P-51 is the best.
Especialy when the world is lost saying that the P-51 is the all time best.
Youl probably find 10000 sites that are wrong and say that the P-51 is the best.
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
We're just asking you what you base your opinion on it not being one of the greatest fighters of WWII
Doughboy
Staff Sergeant
Here's some facts about one of the best planes of WWII.
"The North American Aviation P-51 Mustang was a long-range single-seat fighter aircraft that entered service with Allied air forces in the middle years of World War II.
The P-51 flew most of its wartime missions as a bomber escort in raids over Germany, helping ensure Allied air superiority from early 1944. It also saw limited service against the Japanese in the Pacific War. The Mustang began the Korean War as the United Nations' main fighter, but was relegated to a ground attack role when superseded by jet fighters early in the conflict. Nevertheless, it remained in service with some air forces until the early 1980s.
As well as being economical to produce, the Mustang was a fast, well-made, and highly durable aircraft. The definitive version, the P-51D, was powered by the Packard V-1650, a two-stage two-speed supercharged version of the legendary Rolls-Royce Merlin engine, and was armed with six .50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns.
After World War II and the Korean conflict, many Mustangs were converted for civilian use, especially air racing. The Mustang's reputation was such that, in the mid-1960s, Ford Motor Company's Designer John Najjar proposed the name for a new youth-oriented coupe automobile after the fighter.[2
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Dark Matter
Banned
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Thats why the Ford Mustang is such a bad car.
Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.
Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.
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Doughboy
Staff Sergeant
That doesn't mean it wasn't a good plane.... Only okay? No, great!.Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.
That is fine, but then state it as your opinion, but if you are going to call it inferior to other aircraft, then you better back it up with real facts!
You keep comparing apples and oranges!
Comparing the Mustang to the Bearcat is like comparing the F-86 Sabre to the F-4 Phantom! Of course the Bearcat is going to be better, it is a generation ahead of the P-51!
Compare it to contemporary aircraft!
No one here is saying it was the all time best. I find it to be a slightly overated aircraft, but fact is fact:
1. It was one of the best aircraft.
2. It was equal to or better than almost anything that saw service in WW2.
You decided to dispute that by comparing it to planes that are a generation ahead of it and by playing video games.
So why should we waste our time finding "proof". If you are going to state something, then you find the facts and prove us wrong.
I have not seen any facts posted by you yet...
Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.
That makes it inferior?
That is what you stated, several pages before. Please post the facts that prove that. We are all still waiting.
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Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
Not to add to this "fight", but speaking from experience, be careful making statements like the part of your response that I've highlighted in bold letters.SILVERFISH1992 said:
This could get you banned from this site.
....especially if you make that statement to LES OF PRIMUS.
Just saying.
Elvis
Dark Matter
Banned
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- Jun 23, 2009
It is inferior.That is fine, but then state it as your opinion, but if you are going to call it inferior to other aircraft, then you better back it up with real facts!
You keep comparing apples and oranges!
Comparing the Mustang to the Bearcat is like comparing the F-86 Sabre to the F-4 Phantom! Of course the Bearcat is going to be better, it is a generation ahead of the P-51!
Compare it to contemporary aircraft!
No one here is saying it was the all time best. I find it to be a slightly overated aircraft, but fact is fact:
1. It was one of the best aircraft.
2. It was equal to or better than almost anything that saw service in WW2.
You decided to dispute that by comparing it to planes that are a generation ahead of it and by playing video games.
So why should we waste our time finding "proof". If you are going to state something, then you find the facts and prove us wrong.
I have not seen any facts posted by you yet...
That makes it inferior?
That is what you stated, several pages before. Please post the facts that prove that. We are all still waiting.
Why??? Just because you say so? That isn't a reason to make it inferior that is just an opinion and opinions mean sh*t without evidence...
Dark Matter
Banned
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- Jun 23, 2009
Exactly!
its everyones opinion that its Great, and thats there opinion.
I just said my opinion.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
Exactly!
its everyones opinion that its Great, and thats there opinion.
I just said my opinion.
Its a fine aircraft but depending on the task there are better , but overall it did a number of tasks reasonably well . Was it the equal of a Spit in a dogfight no but how many Spits were there dogfighting over Berlin in mid 44
Doughboy
Staff Sergeant
You have not posted a single bit of proof and until you do, you have nothing to back up that statement!
"Why??? Just because you say so? That isn't a reason to make it inferior that is just an opinion and opinions mean sh*t without evidence... "
My sentiments exactly.
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Kind of a bad thing to state when you're trying to make a point about your opinion.Thats why the Ford Mustang is such a bad car.
Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.
Like it's aircraft namesake, the Ford Mustang was economical to produce, affordable to purchase and a reliable performer.
It had decent lines and an economical engine (and of course, later options allowed for brutal horsepower) but quickly became an icon and influenced vehicle designs for that class of car, for years.
My personal opinion is that, much like it's aircraft namesake, it's a bit over-rated...however, I can't deny that it was a good machine that delivered on it's designer's promise.
And this is coming from a die-hard Chevy fan/owner.
Dark Matter
Banned
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- Jun 23, 2009
I'm not going to argue!
Its inferior to most planes!
Its not my favorite!
I'm not going to reply anymore!
Its over!
Done!
Its inferior to most planes!
Its not my favorite!
I'm not going to reply anymore!
Its over!
Done!
Doughboy
Staff Sergeant
You are trolling! I am done fighting you troll!
"I'm not going to argue!
Its inferior to most planes!
Its not my favorite!
I'm not going to reply anymore!
Its over!
Done! "
Okay, troll.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
Have you ever seen a real one ? or just a CGI representation?I'm not going to argue!
Its inferior to most planes!
Its not my favorite!
I'm not going to reply anymore!
Its over!
Done!
Its a statement of American industrial stregth the fact that the aircraft went from drawings to production in such a short time and don't forget the fact that Packhard went on to make the Merlin also in a short period of time . Give your head a shake , I can't recall anyone here saying it was the be all to end all
Doughboy
Staff Sergeant
Yes, I never once said it was the best plane of WWII, I said "one of the best"Have you ever seen a real one ? or just a CGI representation?
Its a statement of American industrial stregth the fact that the aircraft went from drawings to production in such a short time and don't forget the fact that Packhard went on to make the Merlin also in a short period of time . Give your head a shake , I can't recall anyone here saying it was the be all to end all
How??????????????????
You keep saying so, but you don't back it up with any facts!! Explain to us with facts how it was inferior to its contemporary aircraft?
I for one do not think it was the greatest thing since bread and butter, but it did do what it was designed to do, and it was at least equal to its opponents. Now prove me wrong...
I'm not going to argue!
Its inferior to most planes!
Its not my favorite!
I'm not going to reply anymore!
Its over!
Done!
Very mature!
How old are you???
You make claims (call them opinions, but say you have facts to back them up), then you supply no facts. Fact of the matter is this:
Whether you like the aircraft or not, it was one of the best. Maybe you should have posted in a different thread, about favorites, but not best. So basically you get yourself into a bunch because of your "factual opinions" and then you can't take the heat and run. Way to go kid...
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Exactly!
its everyones opinion that its Great, and thats there opinion.
I just said my opinion.
So where is your evidence to support your argument???? You haven't provide any therefore your opinion is worthless....
