Best World War II Aircraft?

[Waynos]

I'm not going to argue!

Its inferior to most planes! - pointless and meaningless statement - planes like what? A380? Concorde? What are you talking about?

Its not my favorite! this is perfectly fine, you are entitled to that view, but not liking something does not make it bad

I'm not going to reply anymore! No, please do, I'm still trying to figure out which side of 12 you are

Its over! Awww

Done!

PS. Have you figured out yet when we will have planes with no engines or wings?

 

[Doughboy]

PS. Have you figured out yet when we will have planes with no engines or wings?

I wonder if we've chased the troll off.

 

[river]

Hi,

I wonder if we've chased the troll off.

Maybe not, if you chased him with the inferior P51!

river

 

[Njaco]

Read the title of this thread, it asks what you think is the best aircraft.

So I stated my opinion and who cares what you think, and who cares what I think.

If you think it was the best then go ahead. All I'm saying is that I disagree.

First, Silver, you must understand something. This forum deals with real aircraft in real situations. It is not a gaming site although we do have a section on games. The members here discuss what the real and true attributes of aircraft are in all types of situations. We discuss historical fact. We have members who are pilots, mechanics, real people with real experience. So when a question is posed "What is the best...", in almost all accounts we are talking real aircraft and thier qualities. Comparing the flight chracteristics of the Fw 200 in IL2 or CFS2 is not taken into consideration. It doesn't belong here.

Why dont you compare the P-51 to the F8F on wikipedia and find out.

Take a look out the window. See the 9 year old kid from down the block on his Big Wheel? 10 mintes ago he just posted the starting procedures of the Boeing 747 on Wikipedia. That is the source you are using. In fact, later today I'm going to post how to calibrate a Saturn V rocket. Wiki is to be used as a guide, not fact.

It was inferior to the FW-190D, Me-262, Bf-109, La-7, Yak-3, temptest, corsair, P-38 and more.

Would you agree that the Me 262 was the cutting edge of airplane development during WWII? That it was the next generation of fighter aircraft and showed the future of aviation? Really advanced and fast.

Now list the types of fighters that actually shot down a Me 262. Oh, look, the P-51!

Honestly, the P-51 is okay, I just get sick of hearing about it all the time.

If you had stopped here, you would have been fine. Stated your opinion, gave a valid reason and short and sweet. But you kinda dug a hole with facts from IL2 and Wiki.

I, myself am sometimes tired of hearing all the glories of the P-51 but it can't be denied that it was one of the best.

 

[plan_D]

The BP Defiant was better than the P-51, because I said so.

 

[Njaco]

The BP Defiant was better than the P-51, because I said so.

Close the thread. We have our answer!

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

If you are going to have temper tantrums because people ask you for facts to back up your posts, then I suggest you find another forum. Here are a few suggestions I have for you:

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SpongeBob SquarePants Forum - Topix

Dragonball Z Forum
Dragonball Z Forum

 

[Doughboy]

I'm not going to argue! because I have nothing to back up my statements

Its inferior to most planes! I like to compare modern planes to the Mustang

Its not my favorite! That is okay, but that doesn't make it a bad plane

I'm not going to reply anymore! I've realized that you guys are right and I have fought a losing fight

Its over! I'm done posting on this website because I'm too thin-skinned

Done!I've finished my trolling mission.....Yay!

Okay, I'm done editing.

 

[evangilder]

Silverfish, we had 71 pages of civil discussion before you posted your P-51 hate rant. It is one thing to have a civil discussion, it is quite another to just make statements and then not back those up with facts. You CANNOT base your opinion on the performance of something in a GAME. I have flown combat flight sims on the computer and while they are fun, they aren't like the real thing. I have flown air combat that was real except for the bullets. Air Combat USA gives the real experience without getting yourself killed.

You can fly combat flight sims all day in the comfort of your air-conditioned house, free of G loads and the ability to pause to get some water, take a leak, etc. You don't have that luxury in a real airplane, pulling up to 10 Gs in 115 degree heat.

When it all comes down to air combat, it is the person in the cockpit's skill and some luck that will wing the fight. I bagged an Extra 300S while flying a Marchetti SF-260, twice! Compare the capabilities of the 2 aircraft and see who SHOULD win that fight.

With all your rant against the P-51, you never did state what you thought was the best...

 

[vikingBerserker]

Nice Adler.

 

[Doughboy]

Hi,



Maybe not, if you chased him with the inferior P51!

river

Adler, that's hilarious.

 

[Dark Matter]

Everyone, I apoligize for my rude behavior.

The P-51 is equal or better then most planes.

Please forgive me.

 

[Dark Matter]

Silverfish, we had 71 pages of civil discussion before you posted your P-51 hate rant. It is one thing to have a civil discussion, it is quite another to just make statements and then not back those up with facts. You CANNOT base your opinion on the performance of something in a GAME. I have flown combat flight sims on the computer and while they are fun, they aren't like the real thing. I have flown air combat that was real except for the bullets. Air Combat USA gives the real experience without getting yourself killed.

You can fly combat flight sims all day in the comfort of your air-conditioned house, free of G loads and the ability to pause to get some water, take a leak, etc. You don't have that luxury in a real airplane, pulling up to 10 Gs in 115 degree heat.

When it all comes down to air combat, it is the person in the cockpit's skill and some luck that will wing the fight. I bagged an Extra 300S while flying a Marchetti SF-260, twice! Compare the capabilities of the 2 aircraft and see who SHOULD win that fight.

With all your rant against the P-51, you never did state what you thought was the best...

I think the P-38 is the best.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Everyone, I apoligize for my rude behavior.

The P-51 is equal or better then most planes.

Please forgive me.

Silverfish, we are not asking you to give in. We are only asking you to back up your statements with facts.

The P-51D is not my favorite aircraft either, but this thread is not about favorite but rather best. Was it the best, by no means. Was it inferior to its contemporary aircraft? Of course not.

If you had gone into the thread about Favorite aircraft and posted that you do not like the P-51 because it is all you ever hear about. That would have been fine. But your arguments in this thread, were very absurd. Go back and read your threads and you will see what I mean.

I think the P-38 is the best.

Why is that? State the reasons that you think it was the best. That is how conversations are conducted on forums.

If everyone were just state: "---- Is the best", we would have no need for a forum.

 

[Dark Matter]

The P-38 was the best in my opinion becuase it had wonderful range, good high speed aircraft, very powefrul armament, very agile, very advanced and very good looking.

 

[Doughboy]

Everyone, I apoligize for my rude behavior.

The P-51 is equal or better then most planes.

Please forgive me.

You're forgiven.

 

[Elvis]

The BP Defiant was better than the P-51, because I said so.

I'll see your Defiant with a P-26 and raise you an F2A-1!

...or better yet, wanna see who can walk away from the most ground loops?
C'MON! I'll put my Stearman against your Defiant any day, mister!

...




Elvis

 

[plan_D]

All in with the Blackburn Roc, a loss to mission ratio of 1:1.

 

[adr32]

i think if the c-47 was armed like this it would be the best but just plain or just the paratrooper type it is ok

 

[Elvis]

Well, technically, this doesn't count for this thread, but during Vietnam, the US developed a version of the C-47 that was armed.
All of the guns pointed at a downward angle, because they were meant to lay concentrated suppresive fire into a small area, before ground troops would come in.
Carried a couple of 7.62 miniguns, a couple of 50's and either a 20 or a rapid fire 37mm.
The type was called a "Gunship" and was a pretty effective little beast.
AFAIK, the role has been taken over by the C-130, these days.

I've heard the C-47 Gunships referred to as "Puff the Magic Dragon", but I used to be neighbors with an ol' boy who was a wig in the Army back in the 60's.
His department tested all the new equipment to see if it was fit for duty.
One of these items was a pneumatically actuated version of the 7.62 minigun, and he told me THAT was "Puff the Magic Dragon", so maybe the plane got the name from the gun?



Elvis