BoB GB 109E questions....

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  1. Lucky13

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    I've got decals for three Bf 109E's with '13' on them, the questions is if they took part in the BoB or not....:confused:

    1. Heinz Bar, Bf 109E-3, White 13, Wk. Nr. 3714, I./JG51 based in Pihen, France September '40.
    2. ?, Bf 109E-4, Yellow 13, Wk. Nr. ?, 9./JG54 ?, ? '40.
    3. ?, Bf 109E-1, Red 13, Wk. Nr. ?, 2./JG26, France '40. This one say 'early '40' though, so it's still a question mark.
    If none of these will fit, I might get this set.....or I'll just get it anyway for the '13'. :oops: :lol:

    Now, a Spitfire from the No. 74 Squadron..... :lol:
     

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    #2 Airframes, Feb 2, 2010
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    The JG54 and JG26 birds almost certainly, although I'd need to check deeper. Got any pics? Not sure about Bar's crate though - Pihen was south east of Wissant, and I'd thought III/JG51, the other two fields being at St. Omer and Wissant itself; I can check further though. If it was September, then yes, it would have been involved, unless transferred or written off. Again, any pics? If I can see 'em. I''ll probably recognise them, or can at least double check my refs.
    EDIT: A quick check shows that I Gruppe were indeed at Pihen, a large field divided by a minor road, and with somewhat primitive conditions. The Jabo's of 2 Staffel used one half of the field, the rest of I Gruppe the other. The Gruppe played little part in the Battle until mid - August, so, for September, one can assume this aircraft and pilot would more than likely have been in the Battle.
     
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    Cheers Terry old boy! I found that Bar is credited with 10 kills in BoB, so I think that his 'White 13' is good....:D
     
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    Aaaannnd you might like to know there's a 'Future Release' of Bar's Bf109E due out this year, in 1/48th scale, from Academy I believe.........maybe in time for the BoB GB?
     
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    #5 imalko, Feb 3, 2010
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    Terry, did you mean this one? If yes, it's already released. I saw this model in my local hobby shop last time I was there.
     

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    Nice one Igor! I'll have to look for that one then...:D Cheers lads!
     
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    I Have the one in my stash...:)
     

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    Nice! That'll be the one Igor. It's shown as a 'Future Release' on the Hannant's web-site, at £12.98. As a price is shown, I guess it must be imminent in the UK.
     
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    Not to highjack, but these are the 5 profiles offered with my Eduard 1:32 Bf109E-4 Jan.... I like Wick's crate, but Gallands looks better to me....

    I am 99% positive I will be doin Yellow 13 Brother, so u and I will be kickin it the right way......
     

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    Ah Ha! That was going to be one of my possible choices! No probs, it's now definitely made the decision for me - I'll do a certain 'White 6' instead!
    I see they have von Werra's '109 on the decal sheet - wondered when that one would show up again. Just out of interest Dan, on the decals for Galland's machine, have they got the starboard side Mickey Mouse badge the right way around, with Mickey and the pistol facing to the rear? Cos Hasegawa haven't! I got their 1/32nd 109E from Daniel last week, and the decals are a bit pale for Wick's machine (possibly an end of run, or light on the ink) and the Galland markings are incorrect!
     
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    Jan, just found a few pics of '13s' during the BoB in Caldwell's JG 26 book. And I know of a few in the Jagdwaffe: BoB series as well. Will try to scan and get posted for you.

    I'm being stupid but when does the BoB build start?
     
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    #12 Lucky13, Feb 4, 2010
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    Please do my friend, cheers! Is not the same date as when it started in reality.... let me check. BoB GB, Aug 1st-Nov 30th.
     
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    Roll on August 1st !
    Chris, do you still want to do something about the BoB? I think you mentioned a day by day sort of thing? I'm considering putting together a unit listing for both sides, showing markings, locations, maps etc - if I have enough time!
     
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    Yeah, I plan on starting July 10 but I don't have a word processor at the moment and can't access my files. Working on that and hopefully will be able to go full bore by the summer.

    August!!!! I need to find another build sooner. I'm getting an itch and I need a Group Build for motivation.
     
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    Well there's always the D-Day one, on now, or the Cold War GB, starting May 1st......
     
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    For what I have, none of those will work.

    Jan, found these in...

    "JG 26 War Diary" by Caldwell
    "Jagdwaffe: Battle of Britain" by Eric Mombeek
     

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    Damn some sweet ones there Chris, including some great shots of the 13 Im gonna do.....

    I love the White 13 forward of the cockpit, badass...
     
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    I thought the same thing on the white '13'. I also have a shot of a 'Yellow 13' with a 'White 5' under the cockpit but its from April 1940. Apparently the dual numbers were added as planes were attached to Tr 186.
     
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    #19 Lucky13, Feb 5, 2010
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    My favorite is the 'Yellow 13' from 9./JG54! Great stuff Chris! :thumbright:
     
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    Same one Im doin Jan...
     
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